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the plaintiff thought the masters almost

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this clearly maybe something there

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beyond the realm of man

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unless you really do that's true dr.

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all right folks were no stranger to the

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et abduction scenario as anybody with an

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interest can pour over countless cases

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stretching back decades and even

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centuries but a lesser talked-about

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phenomenon are the military abductions

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or mill abs where shadow state and black

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ops groups follow up on genuine ET

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experiences with their own simulated

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abductions and interrogations and

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shining a spotlight on this slice of the

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pie can be even more insightful when we

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try to get a grip on the big picture

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because we get indications of who knows

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what who's working with who and what the

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deeper motivations might be behind all

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this high strangeness well today's guest

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Melinda Lesley is just the person to

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talk to because not only has she had her

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own life long string of occasional

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encounters with these beans and of

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course about 8 million recall she's also

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interviewed over a hundred fellow

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experiencers and as a result has a

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pretty well educated opinion on some of

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the major commonalities and possible

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agendas but that's not all folks she

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also leads night-vision goggle clad UFO

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tours in the desert of Arizona with a

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near-perfect sighting record as well as

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being a medium and psychic who

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specializes in connecting with one

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spirit guides you've seen her on TV and

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conferences around the country as well

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as her tour on coast to coast and all

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the other major hubs of weird and it's

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an honor to have her here today Melinda

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Leslie welcome to the higher side thank

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you great thank you for having me well

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thanks so much for being here this is

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really exciting as you know I recently

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had Robert Guffey on to talk about his

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book camellia which details the case of

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military gang stalking and electronic

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harassment here in San Diego and as we

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got deeper into things like mill abbe

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experiences and eerie corporate

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connections here in town your name came

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up is the real go-to person to find out

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more so this is a real treat for me but

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to start this off I've heard mill Ave

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experiences described in a couple of

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different ways that the shadow State is

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doing all this to try to play catch up

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and investigate the genuine abduction

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phenomenon that the UFO experiences of

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the past few decades were just a cover

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and then it's been military the whole

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time and of course the third option that

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they're working together so to clarify

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give us a better idea of how you define

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the mill AB experience

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well first off I'll let people know I

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don't like that term right I didn't know

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and the reason is I think it's extremely

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limiting it leads one to think that it

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is all military or that the only people

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involved in this are military and so it

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really falls short from even coming

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close to describing it it's any covert

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human organization involved in the in

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the abduct a lien abduction scenario and

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it's also come to mean things that have

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stuff going on that has no relationship

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to alien abduction in my research I

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focus on people who have had alien or

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extraterrestrial abductions who then get

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targeted by covert human agencies now

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sometimes these agencies are military as

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far as they have military uniforms and

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their military bases and etc and

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military equipment and sometimes they

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seem to be more like covert human

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organizations like intelligence

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organizations and offshoots of that I

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mean that's not just one body that's

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it's like a huge octopus with multiple

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arms so there can be multiple branches

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of thing and it's extremely

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aspect of that at one time and again on

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because otherwise it gets just too big

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too broad too much into various

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mind-control subjects and whatnot and

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come across search but I'd really choose

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for mine to have a very specific focus

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of people who've had alien abduction or

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you know extraterrestrial abduction who

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then get targeted mm-hm and and it's

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because they're very real abject ease

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now with what you're just saying we're

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know some people say it's all military

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well that rules out all the experiences

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where people are seeing military and ETS

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combined right and I think one of the

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other things you said is it's all one of

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investigating it well no

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no no they're working with them and

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they're actually a whole bunch of things

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are going on but one of the things kind

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of like down the road in the experiences

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way it kind of ramps up by actually in

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my presentations I showed this diagram I

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made of like a curve you know going

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a bar chart you know but a curved line

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escalates and at any point you can

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repeat any portion of that but the the

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thing I have it escalating to way down

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the road is people being recruited into

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these programs to participate themselves

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and there's a whole string of programs

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that people get recruited in everything

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from things that fall under the category

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of secret space program to things that

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fall under the category of mind-control

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to things that fall into the categories

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of time travel programs and of course

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the SCI paranormal programs you know and

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those are just some of them you know so

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you fit into any one of those programs

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communication programs where you're use

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as a communicator with DTS and then

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perpetrator of the mylabs and so some of

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the guys who are doing my labs started

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off as APNIC T's and got recruited hmm

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often those people then at some point

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had a military or intelligence

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background so that combined with being

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the abductee you know and and that's

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just it eat your chances of having the

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my lab stuff goes up exponentially

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depending on your background your

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family's background in a variety of

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things right as we know alien abductions

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runs in families that has been long

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proven in abduction research that if

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you're an app dick T you find it happen

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to your parents you have kids it happens

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to them I mean three generations is

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common like almost all abdic T's realize

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that there's a third generation thing

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generation so we realize that this goes

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back in families and and then it a

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synaptic tea when you have kids it goes

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forward in your family you know so and

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families as well much for the same

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reason if they're following you as an

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abductee they may have followed your

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parents the reason you're probably being

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targeted is your parents already had

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involvement and there starts to be these

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patterns like people's parents were

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maybe in in intelligence in some way in

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not just military because you know

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people probably your age and my age and

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you know or certainly anyone who's maybe

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for certain is gonna have parents that

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were probably in the military at least a

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father that was mm-hm and that's because

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of world war ii or vietnam is just so

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prevalent but so military loan doesn't

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necessarily mean anything but if they

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were higher-level military if they were

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officer if a parent or a close relative

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the aerospace community again

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particularly if their higher level if

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they were deep into secret society stuff

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so these are things that start to add up

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ding-ding-ding on multiple combinations

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in them right and and it could be you

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know because of you because of that

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parent or that grandparent is why they

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watch for what are the what was gonna

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happen to the kids you know and if you

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end up being extremely intelligent

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if you end up being extremely you know

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psychic or have paranormal abilities if

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you end up being an alien abductee you

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could get targeted and recruited and

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often that's that's the same series of

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events that happens for people who get

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if it has seemingly nothing to do with

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anything

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extraterrestrial it seems to be that

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it's recruited and again it runs in

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families well same with this it's

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like they're using the same I don't know

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what I'm trying to say template yeah the

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same yeah perfect word perfect word a

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lot of words we're starting to come up

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but that's the perfect word the same

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template our template for finding these

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individuals and using them etc etc now a

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really low-grade harassment surveillance

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stuff yes and they kind of and it can

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stop in other words there may be where

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are we interested in this person do they

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know enough about their experience you

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know do they have the things we're

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looking for and if not then that can

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kind of happen and then it kind of dies

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off so I know it a lot of abdic T's who

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had a certain amount of stuff and then

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that it just ends there but like I said

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then it can ramp up to the next thing

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and the next thing and the next thing

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and before you know it you're going up

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this curve mm-hmm where you end up in a

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Sai program a alien communication

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program the secret space program you

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know oh that far or you become a

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perpetrator I mean to me got a woman

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who's a perpetrator I'm sure they must

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exist but so far I've met a few guys and

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in every case they started out being

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alien abductee well if you can't beat

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them join them you know well tell you

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this the usual case is that it is

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against their will the usual case is

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it's in still like an abduction related

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scenario they're under mind control it's

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not something they made a choice to

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participate in in with a few of them yes

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they made a choice and and it usually

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became because they were recruited into

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secret operations often military related

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or intelligence related usually out of

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the military so those guys that were in

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the military or in the intelligence

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community who then get recruited but

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of them it's it's a choice in their

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participation but I've met guys that it

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is done in an altered state under

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drugged or hypnosis or so it's seemingly

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the same kind of event like an abduction

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event

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except for their use used as a

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perpetrator and that's really a really

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unfortunate I think they want your

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cooperation but they're gonna use you

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whether they get it or not maybe right

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unfortunately you know I mean I know

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this sounds pretty dark but it can be

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and I've fortunately come across all

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this to go OK ice you know that's where

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I started to come up with this pattern

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of this you know ramping up in someone's

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life and and it can start really low

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great and and interestingly enough you

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know even on my timeline I don't have

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that it starts with the alien abduction

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you know on this line I have a couple

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things before that on the timeline if

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you will of how it can ramp up for

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instance what makes you an alien

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abductee can go back in your family as

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we just said so it can be family

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involvement in any of those programs

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that I mentioned it can be and like I

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said then the secret society stuff it

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can also be involved in the aerospace

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engineering programmer or NASA or in you

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know ER or the intelligence community or

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high-level military or any combination

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thereof you know but as those things go

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back so that can all exist long before

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you ever realize or even have an alien

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abduction and of course alien abductions

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themselves can go back in your family

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and and then there's a historical

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pattern going back even into not to make

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a cheap connection here but I mean this

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very seriously because they've actually

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addressed it on the show ancient aliens

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where they've addressed not only of

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course it's all about the historical

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connection but they've even gotten back

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to the elite and those in power and

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those in military and those and

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intelligence going back in history were

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involved in this you know make address

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that a couple times you go okay this

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goes way back but for the individual it

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can go back in your family not only just

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the alien abduction of course that can

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but also these other things these other

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areas involvement and so all that can

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pre exist and then even as an advocate

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II often you start to have some kind of

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communication with ETS

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before you have a physical of

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now most optic T's it starts in

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childhood so it's real hard to pinpoint

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that but in a few cases where maybe it

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started a little later in life there was

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some involvement it's very common for an

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abject or at least that involvement is

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what causes you to then realize you've

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had this all along like with me I didn't

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find out I had alien abductions till

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1989 but it turned out I had had them my

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whole life

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mm-hmm and it turns out once I start

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doing all this research of course my own

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dad and my own families I start checking

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off those things I was coming up for

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other people and I just start go well do

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I have that oh [\h__\h] yeah I do

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my language but no worries that

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Internet's like cable TV absolutely we

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are like HBO here say whatever the hell

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you need to say what's interesting about

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the family lines thing is that so many

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of us who aren't involved in it or just

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you know our enthusiasts in it a lot of

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people want some kind of verification

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that these things happen and since we

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know the exact families that are being

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taken it seems like we should be able to

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monitor those people and catch them in

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the act and in some regard has that ever

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been attempted no we're not that far

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down the road there's a lot of things

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even an alien abduction research there's

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so much that can be done and i-i-i used

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to joke with bud and john mack and dave

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and stuff date still life but the other

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to her past unfortunately and i involved

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very much with Yvonne Smith and Barbara

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Lam and you know I said tried cetera

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Kathleen Martina but um there's kind of

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this thing like it's it's we're so

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caught up in triage it's all about

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helping the traumatized abdic T figure

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out is this really going on what's going

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on you know is there physical evidence

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and helping them come to terms with it

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and getting them in some kind of support

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mm-hmm but that's where it keeps just

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cycling through a grenade on that in the

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research because it's so much about

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trying to help that person and help that

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person integrate it into their life and

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live with it and feel supported and

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filled whole and

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all healed that it's work we're just

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always in triage yeah and so to do a lot

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of the research that could be done on it

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it's very tough now occasionally just

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when things start to get motivated to

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kind of maybe do that research somebody

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fall you know somebody passes away

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someone has something other traumatic

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happen in their life and you know I mean

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like a researcher passes life passes

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away or someone has trauma or something

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you know in their own personal life

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unrelated and they're caught up doing

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that or whatever so like you could think

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of like the MIT study that happened

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years ago wow we're starting to make

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some real headway and get some real

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information some real research and then

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it's dead in the water you know right

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and just for a million reasons

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occasionally there's things even now

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where organizations are trying to say

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let's take this to the next level and do

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some more research and get some more

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data and one of the organizations doing

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that that I'm very proud to be a part of

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I'm not on their primary board I'm kind

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of just a consultant to them but I

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really support what they do is called

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free fre e which is the dr. Edgar

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Mitchell foundation for research into

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extra tongue-tied into extra

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extraterrestrial encounters there we go

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but the and of course dr. Edgar Mitchell

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was one of the founders and on the board

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event and tell his unfortunately you

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know recent passing but but he what he

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was involved in it and kind of the

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managing director kind of managing the

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business of it as a guy named ray

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Hernandez and it has I mentioned

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Kathleen Martin and and it has a whole

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she's on the board but a whole list of

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scientists and some physicists even on

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the board so it's it's trying to really

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come about it from a very kind of a

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pragmatic grounded yet they're all

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people who are also involved in

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consciousness study and research and so

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they're also looking at it from the

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consciousness angle and from a spiritual

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angle and that's really nice that

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they're it's like they're no stone

439
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unturned you know they're they're

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willing to consider all the angles all

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the aspects because of how complicated

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it is

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and they're starting off with doing

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these surveys that people can go online

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and take these surveys that help you

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both determine how much you're having

447
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happen and if you're an abductee or

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contactee and then it goes and then they

449
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the surveys get more involved now they

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had me put together a complete my lab

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related survey for them covert

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involvement survey it was whole series

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of questions that's kind of on hold

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because they're still getting the

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results and and trying to do the science

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and the statistics on the initial

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surveys but they tell me down the road

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they do want to use that now even in

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their second survey I lap related

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questions but kind of what spurred me on

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to really work with them as I thought I

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mean I I'm glad that they asked anything

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and that they thought to include

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anything is wonderful but they asked the

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wrong questions so they're getting a

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very small percentage because the

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questions weren't the right questions it

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was like have you been abducted by the

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military well okay that's limiting it to

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military that's limiting it to only the

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times where you're physically removed by

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humans right and it's like oh wait wait

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they didn't even ask the question have

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you been abducted by ETS and seen humans

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at military outfits or people in lab

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attire or people in suits present didn't

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in the sea you know right right you got

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to be very careful with your wording

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yeah exactly so even with that though I

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think they said they were getting about

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a 10 or 12 percent return from and then

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that's out of thousands of people taking

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this thing so that's still pretty high

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numbers now that's not the only question

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they asked but all the questions were

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kind of predicated on that idea and and

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so you know so even then they're getting

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you know 10 12 percent response which is

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is pretty high yeah and when they start

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asking the right questions I highly

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suspect it'll be at least a 40 percent

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response Wow could use hi a 60% mmm when

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they asked the right questions it was

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some of the other related questions so

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that's why I developed that for them and

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I look really forward to when they start

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using that and have it be a place where

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we can really

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get some real numbers on this ya see

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much it's really involved that will be

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nice so another aspect I'm interested in

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as I've heard you talk about this

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pattern of equations or advanced math or

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formulas being communicated or shown to

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abduct T's and that's really interesting

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because that also comes up in other

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areas of strange contact like beans

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encountered on psychedelics can you

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elaborate on that angle at all this is

510
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what the mill ABS groups are after in at

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least some cases right yes yeah yeah

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good question in some cases yeah I'll

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say this in my research I kind of have

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it in five I could do this off top my

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head cuz I'm in I don't have any notes

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in front of me so you guys this is all

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just I just done this for so long it's

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in the brain so I could go through that

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file you know rifle through the files

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pull that one out okay there we go um

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okay there's five major things that

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they're interested in from the abductees

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one is alien agenda and motives so like

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what do you know about the alien agenda

525
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what do you know about their motives

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what are they really doing why are they

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producing the hybrids to the degree that

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they are we get it more into that if you

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want why are they picking you up do you

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know why they're involved with you do

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you know why they might be involved with

532
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your family have they told you what

533
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their agendas or their motives and so

534
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that's category 1 category 2 is is psy

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ability they're looking for the

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solubility in the abdic t psy being of

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course the psychic the paranormal

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abilities do you do remote viewing do

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you do psychokinesis do you do telepathy

540
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you know etc etc so those kinds of

541
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things you know they're and then they'll

542
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test you in those abilities and try to

543
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turn what you have and how much have you

544
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learned that from the ETS has it been

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enhanced by thee T's which gets us also

546
00:22:41,410 --> 00:22:38,750
to the next category which is genetics

547
00:22:42,820 --> 00:22:41,420
so why are they interested in you

548
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:42,830
genetically is there something different

549
00:22:47,410 --> 00:22:44,810
about your genetics have you been

550
00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:47,420
altered are you a hybrid to whatever

551
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:49,400
degree you know little or a lot or

552
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:51,290
anything in between have you been

553
00:22:55,090 --> 00:22:54,650
affected and changed genetically and is

554
00:22:57,490 --> 00:22:55,100
there

555
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,500
think different about your genetics that

556
00:23:01,360 --> 00:22:59,840
kind of thing and the net and all these

557
00:23:02,980 --> 00:23:01,370
things cross-correlate you can see

558
00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:02,990
because as I just took that out of the

559
00:23:06,850 --> 00:23:04,370
side thing there's a genetic component

560
00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:06,860
to the side part and then there's a

561
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,809
genic genetic component obviously to

562
00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:10,880
Bayley an agenda and motive so you know

563
00:23:13,299 --> 00:23:12,350
all these things is it's very hard to

564
00:23:15,970 --> 00:23:13,309
separating because they're all

565
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:15,980
intertwined but ok so the first being

566
00:23:19,419 --> 00:23:17,840
agenda motives the second thing your

567
00:23:21,999 --> 00:23:19,429
side abilities the third being your

568
00:23:24,009 --> 00:23:22,009
genetics or anything different about you

569
00:23:25,870 --> 00:23:24,019
genetically and if it's happening to

570
00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:25,880
your kids why them to blah blah blah

571
00:23:31,269 --> 00:23:28,940
okay and then the next would be mind

572
00:23:32,830 --> 00:23:31,279
control and and I'm gonna put the one

573
00:23:34,389 --> 00:23:32,840
you brought up last but these aren't in

574
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,399
a particular order if anything I would

575
00:23:39,009 --> 00:23:36,559
say the technology one might be second

576
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:39,019
after alien agenda and motives but so

577
00:23:42,029 --> 00:23:40,730
you know these this order doesn't mean

578
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:42,039
anything these are all equal in

579
00:23:47,139 --> 00:23:44,600
significance to them but the next being

580
00:23:49,149 --> 00:23:47,149
mind control how much of you could

581
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,159
control her influence by the aliens and

582
00:23:55,899 --> 00:23:52,000
and what can we practice or learn from

583
00:23:57,879 --> 00:23:55,909
your mind control and and can we develop

584
00:24:00,220 --> 00:23:57,889
our mind control I mean and we mean you

585
00:24:02,769 --> 00:24:00,230
know that the covert guys that you know

586
00:24:04,570 --> 00:24:02,779
can they develop the mind control

587
00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:04,580
techniques and abilities and stuff so

588
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:07,070
you become a useful target guinea pig in

589
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:08,960
all that stuff and so that's where

590
00:24:12,190 --> 00:24:10,190
there's so much bleed over into those

591
00:24:13,749 --> 00:24:12,200
areas and then of course then last but

592
00:24:16,450 --> 00:24:13,759
not least the fifth one which might

593
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:16,460
actually be second really in importance

594
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:20,570
is technology so it gets into a bunch of

595
00:24:24,999 --> 00:24:22,490
different aspects of technology have you

596
00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:25,009
been shown technology by ETS have you

597
00:24:30,330 --> 00:24:27,529
should been shown navigation systems

598
00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:30,340
propulsion systems weapon systems as

599
00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:32,750
structural architectural systems have

600
00:24:37,749 --> 00:24:35,750
you been shown alien languages and this

601
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:37,759
gets into the formula things now alien

602
00:24:43,629 --> 00:24:41,570
math formulas alien science you know so

603
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:43,639
how many technology information have

604
00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:47,600
they giving you like that and and really

605
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:50,899
a next agenda and motives I think this

606
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:52,970
is the thing that there seem to be most

607
00:24:57,310 --> 00:24:55,490
interested in right and in my case now

608
00:24:59,230 --> 00:24:57,320
maybe I'm a little bit jaded because in

609
00:25:00,820 --> 00:24:59,240
my own experience that's what they

610
00:25:02,289 --> 00:25:00,830
wanted you know and some of the other

611
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:02,299
things too but that was you know

612
00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:04,010
predominantly are there any other

613
00:25:06,970 --> 00:25:05,480
details you can give us about the

614
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:06,980
technology that people are shown in

615
00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:09,050
these experiences in the

616
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:11,870
in alien abductions right all sorts of

617
00:25:15,070 --> 00:25:12,320
stuff

618
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:15,080
oh gosh all sorts of appearances you

619
00:25:20,590 --> 00:25:17,150
mentioned formulas and stuff so formulas

620
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:20,600
equations math some of these get very

621
00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:23,030
complex rarely does the apnic t really

622
00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:25,070
understand anything that they're being

623
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:27,350
shown mm-hmm and this could be done

624
00:25:31,780 --> 00:25:29,450
where they where they're downloading

625
00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:31,790
this information and you start coming up

626
00:25:36,580 --> 00:25:34,520
with it and you in your dreams and and

627
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:36,590
in your journaling and your writing I

628
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:38,450
mean I keep thinking as I'm talking

629
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:40,880
about this a very famous case for this

630
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:44,090
involvement would be Stan Romanek who

631
00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:46,370
would wake up in the morning and have

632
00:25:49,870 --> 00:25:48,680
his walls covered with these he was

633
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:49,880
writing him in the middle of night and

634
00:25:54,130 --> 00:25:51,440
had no idea he was doing it you know

635
00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:54,140
these formulas or you know on pieces of

636
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:56,270
paper and stuff around but he on his on

637
00:26:00,010 --> 00:25:58,490
his door on his walls you know other

638
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:00,020
people have done that you know or they

639
00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:01,610
suddenly will start writing them

640
00:26:04,990 --> 00:26:03,500
sometimes you remember that you were

641
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:05,000
shown it in the experience and sometimes

642
00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:06,710
it's just like there in your brain and

643
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:08,740
you're not sure where it came from

644
00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:11,090
sometimes it's done in kind of a like in

645
00:26:15,910 --> 00:26:13,280
Stan's case almost like automatic

646
00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:15,920
writing kind of thing you know in an

647
00:26:19,930 --> 00:26:18,230
altered state or during the night or

648
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:19,940
something sometimes this is just

649
00:26:24,190 --> 00:26:21,530
downloading to your brain sometimes

650
00:26:27,130 --> 00:26:24,200
you're shown on board I mean I question

651
00:26:29,140 --> 00:26:27,140
some symbols and stuff on a screen now

652
00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:29,150
not a lot and I think it wasn't really

653
00:26:33,490 --> 00:26:31,340
necessary intended for me I think the

654
00:26:34,690 --> 00:26:33,500
aliens were doing something you know can

655
00:26:37,060 --> 00:26:34,700
you King with each other and I just

656
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:37,070
happened to see it in that particular

657
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:39,890
case interesting but but so that's it

658
00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:41,510
you know were you shown it on a screen

659
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:44,660
did they have you draw it or do

660
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:46,610
something similar to work in computer

661
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:49,010
typing or something or on a computer

662
00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:51,410
screen with your finger you know so did

663
00:26:55,180 --> 00:26:53,120
they have you you know draw it or type

664
00:26:56,650 --> 00:26:55,190
it out in some way and did they show or

665
00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:56,660
did they show it to you as some kind of

666
00:27:01,630 --> 00:26:59,330
3d thing in the air so that all these

667
00:27:03,370 --> 00:27:01,640
things happen mm-hmm and so and sing

668
00:27:05,170 --> 00:27:03,380
with alien languages so first that was

669
00:27:07,630 --> 00:27:05,180
all about like math and symbols and that

670
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:07,640
kind of stuff which can be number

671
00:27:12,970 --> 00:27:10,850
symbols all sorts of stuff and equations

672
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:12,980
and sometimes they'll visually show you

673
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:15,650
kind of like a science experiment or

674
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:16,970
something you know and then like I said

675
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:19,370
eight languages which can be letters or

676
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:22,070
numbers letters say words you know etc

677
00:27:26,169 --> 00:27:22,700
it

678
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:26,179
sounds and thus the people gets get

679
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:29,809
shown in propulsion systems we can show

680
00:27:35,470 --> 00:27:32,450
how the craft works or flies or what

681
00:27:39,570 --> 00:27:35,480
drives it or you know drive mechanism

682
00:27:42,190 --> 00:27:39,580
type drive mechanisms propulsion systems

683
00:27:44,649 --> 00:27:42,200
navigation systems that's interesting

684
00:27:46,450 --> 00:27:44,659
sometimes it shows you like you're just

685
00:27:48,190 --> 00:27:46,460
being taught as if they're showing you a

686
00:27:50,379 --> 00:27:48,200
3d thing or they're showing you an

687
00:27:53,470 --> 00:27:50,389
actual piece of equipment and sometimes

688
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:53,480
that abductee is sat at a control panel

689
00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:55,609
and they understand it's Kaiba a mock-up

690
00:27:59,619 --> 00:27:57,289
situation no you didn't just crash the

691
00:28:01,419 --> 00:27:59,629
ship that you know it was like driver's

692
00:28:04,659 --> 00:28:01,429
training or say you know us now but

693
00:28:06,999 --> 00:28:04,669
something but sometimes the object he

694
00:28:09,639 --> 00:28:07,009
knows I'm actually sad at real controls

695
00:28:11,739 --> 00:28:09,649
and sometimes that's like a control

696
00:28:13,659 --> 00:28:11,749
panel with knobs or buttons and

697
00:28:16,539 --> 00:28:13,669
sometimes it's literally just a computer

698
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:16,549
screen and everything between people get

699
00:28:23,019 --> 00:28:19,609
shown that so navigation systems like I

700
00:28:25,509 --> 00:28:23,029
said propulsion other mechanical systems

701
00:28:27,999 --> 00:28:25,519
I mean one abdic TV says they went into

702
00:28:30,340 --> 00:28:28,009
all this detail of how the doors on the

703
00:28:33,099 --> 00:28:30,350
ship's work you know like passageways

704
00:28:35,229 --> 00:28:33,109
and doors like I have no idea why

705
00:28:38,019 --> 00:28:35,239
they're showing all that to me but you

706
00:28:42,460 --> 00:28:38,029
know and I think too if you're an APNIC

707
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:42,470
T and you show first off if your trick

708
00:28:47,619 --> 00:28:45,049
number one and abductions is learning to

709
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:47,629
be conscious and present and not

710
00:28:51,639 --> 00:28:50,090
overcome by trauma or fear in the

711
00:28:52,869 --> 00:28:51,649
experience and if you are extremely

712
00:28:55,539 --> 00:28:52,879
traumatic and fearful they're going to

713
00:28:57,869 --> 00:28:55,549
shut you down yeah and which is

714
00:29:01,659 --> 00:28:57,879
everything from parallelization

715
00:29:04,509 --> 00:29:01,669
immobilization to memory erase mint blah

716
00:29:07,690 --> 00:29:04,519
blah etc etc so you have to learn to to

717
00:29:09,849 --> 00:29:07,700
have control and be conscious in the

718
00:29:13,090 --> 00:29:09,859
experience and it can be learned and

719
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:13,100
many abductees do and once you become

720
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:15,710
present and conscious and free will in

721
00:29:20,950 --> 00:29:18,769
the experience where you have an ability

722
00:29:22,779 --> 00:29:20,960
to interact well as soon as you show

723
00:29:24,970 --> 00:29:22,789
interest in one of those things like if

724
00:29:26,229 --> 00:29:24,980
they start to show you and you're asking

725
00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:26,239
questions and you're involved and you're

726
00:29:29,529 --> 00:29:27,950
interested in it well they're gonna show

727
00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:29,539
you more so in her case they might have

728
00:29:33,310 --> 00:29:30,950
shown her a door and she might have said

729
00:29:35,769 --> 00:29:33,320
how's that work and next thing she's in

730
00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:35,779
class on how the doors work you know but

731
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:36,590
I'm just saying it

732
00:29:41,409 --> 00:29:38,210
it could be like that like showing

733
00:29:43,570 --> 00:29:41,419
interest in my case unfortunately a lot

734
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:43,580
of times I'm I'm out of it and I don't

735
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:45,650
I'm not in the presence of mine or where

736
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:48,559
I'm asking those things but a few times

737
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:50,570
I have or when they start to show me

738
00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:52,850
something and that's those those few

739
00:29:56,409 --> 00:29:54,710
times when I have been shown technology

740
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:56,419
I actually wish they would do that more

741
00:29:59,169 --> 00:29:57,440
mm-hmm

742
00:30:01,659 --> 00:29:59,179
yeah of course and so I've been a

743
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:01,669
handful of times and some abductees get

744
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:03,590
it quite heavily but maybe it's because

745
00:30:09,010 --> 00:30:06,650
a lot of times I'm you know you're I

746
00:30:12,250 --> 00:30:09,020
mean you're taking usually taken under

747
00:30:15,279 --> 00:30:12,260
duress against your will in an altered

748
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:15,289
state there isn't it there its initial

749
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,710
reaction is to have fear or some amount

750
00:30:23,019 --> 00:30:20,720
of panic even if you know it's gonna be

751
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:23,029
okay just the high strangeness at the

752
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:25,970
beginning if you have a beginning you

753
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:27,770
know and I think a lot of times they

754
00:30:32,980 --> 00:30:31,279
instantly kind of shut that down so it's

755
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:32,990
hard to get beyond that mm-hmm

756
00:30:39,220 --> 00:30:36,770
so you know it's it's a it's a trick to

757
00:30:41,769 --> 00:30:39,230
learn and a few times I feel like I've

758
00:30:44,529 --> 00:30:41,779
been able to remain fairly conscious and

759
00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:44,539
interactive and other times not at all

760
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:47,000
and then there's the times where I

761
00:30:51,370 --> 00:30:49,250
didn't remember darn thing without I

762
00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:51,380
mean it's something people say what do

763
00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:52,460
you need a regression or do you remember

764
00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:54,860
consciously it's not like that you know

765
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:56,299
yeah their experiences I remember

766
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,440
completely consciously and there's

767
00:31:00,490 --> 00:30:58,880
experiences I remember only with

768
00:31:02,620 --> 00:31:00,500
regression and there's a lot of

769
00:31:04,510 --> 00:31:02,630
experiences maybe I remember 80% of it

770
00:31:07,450 --> 00:31:04,520
consciously and then I get regression to

771
00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:07,460
fill in the details mm-hmm but you know

772
00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:09,320
those ones they're fully conscious and I

773
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:11,750
remember versus the ones that bought a

774
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:13,130
regression to get through and I don't

775
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:14,960
know why it was so blocked and then is

776
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:17,690
that is that me that's imposing that or

777
00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:18,620
is that them

778
00:31:24,310 --> 00:31:20,720
that's imposing that and we still don't

779
00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:24,320
know those answers I think a lot of is

780
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:26,630
self-imposed I think when a person gets

781
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,490
in fear because this we know this I mean

782
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,360
this is this is a known thing in in

783
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:33,440
psychology where people have had

784
00:31:37,299 --> 00:31:35,120
traumatic experiences in their life

785
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:37,309
you're you're in a plane crash you block

786
00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:40,130
it out you know you'll remember very few

787
00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:42,380
details is just you know there's a

788
00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:44,360
tendency for the brain to shut off that

789
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:46,760
area like you know like healing a wound

790
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:49,010
or scarred it shuts it off walls it off

791
00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:49,990
in the brain

792
00:31:56,669 --> 00:31:53,140
I think because otherwise when you do

793
00:31:58,290 --> 00:31:56,679
have those memories you have severe

794
00:31:59,760 --> 00:31:58,300
post-traumatic stress and all sorts of

795
00:32:02,520 --> 00:31:59,770
trauma and stuff in your life that can

796
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:02,530
lead to a million-in-one problems you

797
00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:04,530
know yeah it's a defense mechanism

798
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:07,540
psychological problems drug alcohol you

799
00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:08,770
know medical problems mental problems

800
00:32:14,190 --> 00:32:11,080
you name it so I think there's a

801
00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:14,200
tendency for we know that anyways it

802
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,540
that the human mind does that so of

803
00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:18,880
course it makes perfect sense that with

804
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:20,440
this traumatic experience it would do

805
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:24,130
that as well mm-hmm man thank great

806
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:25,929
answer so time is really speeding by

807
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:30,370
here my answers are short so to jump

808
00:32:35,549 --> 00:32:33,370
over to the male labs experiences one of

809
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:35,559
my major curiosities here like I

810
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:37,450
mentioned in that intro is corporate

811
00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:40,510
involvement and this SAIC corporation in

812
00:32:45,660 --> 00:32:42,070
particular what kind of details can you

813
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:45,670
give us on that front well in all

814
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:48,010
honesty it's been a very very long time

815
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:51,910
since I've come across them it was just

816
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:55,630
some insiders and some meetings of some

817
00:33:02,970 --> 00:32:58,320
people in some of these covert

818
00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:02,980
monitoring abdic teas folks mm-hmm I

819
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:05,320
came across a bunch of them there's this

820
00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:06,910
there's this a bunch of them that were

821
00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:10,000
connected to SAIC or at least at one

822
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:13,860
time but I think it is lessened in its

823
00:33:18,299 --> 00:33:17,110
significance as when I came across and

824
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:18,309
I'm like wow what's this all these

825
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:20,110
people are connected all these people

826
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:21,490
are connected to a lot of things that's

827
00:33:26,190 --> 00:33:23,170
just one of the organizations you know

828
00:33:28,430 --> 00:33:26,200
and and it's not like si si knows all

829
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:28,440
about is all involved no it's just a few

830
00:33:33,690 --> 00:33:31,120
perpetrators or people involved or

831
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:33,700
people who are monitoring just happen to

832
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:35,590
have a connection to that and like I

833
00:33:39,570 --> 00:33:37,210
said now it's other organizations so

834
00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:39,580
it's significance that standing out by

835
00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:43,630
itself has lessened over time and I have

836
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:48,400
not come across it in probably at least

837
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,410
10 years since I've even come across it

838
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:53,440
as a continued connection now some of

839
00:33:56,490 --> 00:33:55,120
those individuals are priced don't bald

840
00:33:58,260 --> 00:33:56,500
with it so therefore there would still

841
00:34:00,180 --> 00:33:58,270
be a connection because do they still

842
00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:00,190
have some connection to it yeah mm-hmm

843
00:34:03,910 --> 00:34:03,220
but in their words when I came across a

844
00:34:10,090 --> 00:34:03,920
pot

845
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:10,100
it was just which is sei sees what's I'm

846
00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:11,330
trying to remember the letters stand for

847
00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:13,700
strategic science applications

848
00:34:17,260 --> 00:34:15,710
international corporation correct right

849
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:17,270
that's yeah science application

850
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:19,790
international corporation and and it was

851
00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:21,890
just it's just you know corporate entity

852
00:34:26,350 --> 00:34:23,990
that does science research and stuff in

853
00:34:29,470 --> 00:34:26,360
in San Diego that that name just popped

854
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:29,480
up a you know for me like 15 years not

855
00:34:33,490 --> 00:34:31,300
for a while it with different people

856
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:33,500
because at the time I think they were

857
00:34:37,870 --> 00:34:35,450
involved with it now not so much

858
00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:37,880
you know so that's it and but it's a

859
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:40,640
good representation of how that can

860
00:34:44,890 --> 00:34:42,770
happen yeah I mean everybody knows

861
00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:44,900
companies like Lockheed and Boeing and

862
00:34:48,580 --> 00:34:46,760
groups like DARPA are all part of this

863
00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:48,590
puzzle to some extent but yeah I'd

864
00:34:52,690 --> 00:34:50,360
assume there are some lesser-known

865
00:34:55,419 --> 00:34:52,700
corporations are off the radar groups

866
00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:55,429
that have popped up sure when you get

867
00:35:00,540 --> 00:34:58,190
into for instance um okay let's just

868
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:00,550
take a subject like secret space program

869
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:02,930
cuz that's a good one that's related

870
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:03,770
directly to what we're talking about

871
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:06,710
sure and and so you okay secret space

872
00:35:12,190 --> 00:35:09,350
program well it ain't NASA doing it and

873
00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:12,200
then it's not secret you know so it's

874
00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:14,630
like okay well who's doing this how they

875
00:35:20,650 --> 00:35:17,840
firm stuff out well even now a lot of

876
00:35:22,780 --> 00:35:20,660
military stuff is you know you get milk

877
00:35:25,570 --> 00:35:22,790
drill complex and you get military

878
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:25,580
contractors you know I'm you go out to

879
00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:27,530
area 51 and the security is all handled

880
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:29,300
by whack and Hut back and that's not the

881
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:31,970
military they're a contractor so what

882
00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:33,830
happens with SCA I see is there a

883
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:36,470
military contractor and they're a space

884
00:35:40,830 --> 00:35:39,440
contractor with other ones so so you get

885
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:40,840
into these companies that are the

886
00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:44,270
subcontractors working for the shadow

887
00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:46,280
government the court court you know

888
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:47,720
covert ops whatever you want to call it

889
00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:52,730
and breakaway civilization you start on

890
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:54,800
that but those folks they're the

891
00:35:59,050 --> 00:35:56,930
contractors to those of which if you

892
00:36:01,900 --> 00:35:59,060
start digging you will learn we find a

893
00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:01,910
thousand companies even everything is

894
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:04,040
handled by different subcontract so one

895
00:36:08,820 --> 00:36:06,110
time and maybe currently I don't even

896
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:08,830
know sei sei C was one of those

897
00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:11,810
subcontractors but I do know meetings

898
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:14,390
there there were also a couple meetings

899
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:16,970
at another company in Georgia that keeps

900
00:36:18,730 --> 00:36:17,330
coming

901
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:18,740
I'll think of their name in a second ah

902
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:20,330
shoot I hate it when the brain doesn't

903
00:36:23,050 --> 00:36:20,570
work

904
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:23,060
mm HM HM hm oh there's a [\h__\h] man okay

905
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:24,470
I'll think of their name in a second but

906
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:25,970
another one Georgia where people met you

907
00:36:29,770 --> 00:36:27,410
know so there's these there's these

908
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,780
companies that have been like a meeting

909
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:31,040
place for some of these people for

910
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:33,440
discussing whatever and it was just

911
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,970
because you know they were involved

912
00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:36,800
they're in it and it was a current

913
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:38,660
convenient place to meet and you could

914
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:41,000
meet secretly in a conference room and

915
00:36:46,030 --> 00:36:43,610
cetera etc so these it's okay and that's

916
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:46,040
just one of many I've come across at the

917
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,650
time it seems significant and it can

918
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:51,200
occasionally like for I guess Robert

919
00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:52,490
came across it right that's what you're

920
00:36:56,650 --> 00:36:53,750
saying in use it in this book

921
00:36:59,940 --> 00:36:56,660
okay well occasionally it resurfaces but

922
00:37:02,680 --> 00:36:59,950
the other one so there's multiple these

923
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:02,690
companies that will resurface and their

924
00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:05,710
name will pop up again because of some

925
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:07,940
involvement or someone associated with

926
00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:10,130
them involved so I'm never surprised

927
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:12,500
when I keep coming up with all these

928
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:14,510
various names and and then they'll go

929
00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:16,550
away for a while and come back you know

930
00:37:21,910 --> 00:37:19,520
etc etc so I'm not sure that he came I'm

931
00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:21,920
not am I trying to say I'm not surprised

932
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:25,520
that he came across a SAIC connection

933
00:37:28,810 --> 00:37:27,380
and if he came to me and said well what

934
00:37:31,090 --> 00:37:28,820
about this company this company or this

935
00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:31,100
company I'd probably go oh yeah those

936
00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:33,470
two hahahaha I mean I haven't heard all

937
00:37:36,130 --> 00:37:34,700
of them you know I've only heard a few

938
00:37:38,140 --> 00:37:36,140
here and there but I'm not surprised

939
00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:38,150
when I hear right it's a revolving door

940
00:37:41,890 --> 00:37:40,460
and that's when it comes up a lot

941
00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:41,900
there's there's a well-known one in

942
00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:44,180
Texas that comes up a lot because of the

943
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:47,420
people involved with it I'll I'll say

944
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:49,850
one that keeps coming up in various ways

945
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,880
Bigelow Aerospace there's one mm-hmm

946
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:54,800
that's more currently coming up than

947
00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:57,200
SAIC you know I happens to be some of

948
00:38:02,350 --> 00:37:59,330
the same individuals so and that's just

949
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:02,360
one little group that's in me labs and

950
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:04,610
in alien-abduction there's this term

951
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,610
that an abject he who is also very well

952
00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:09,440
known in the remote viewing field and

953
00:38:14,050 --> 00:38:11,240
teaches that and everything by the name

954
00:38:16,450 --> 00:38:14,060
of Angela Thompson Smith she wrote a

955
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:16,460
book called diary diary of an abduction

956
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:18,110
I'd have known having friend me but her

957
00:38:21,730 --> 00:38:20,210
she I think that's the name hmm I'm at

958
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:21,740
home doing this and my books are all in

959
00:38:26,890 --> 00:38:25,310
my office at work but diary diary an

960
00:38:29,110 --> 00:38:26,900
abduction diary of an abductee I forget

961
00:38:30,730 --> 00:38:29,120
but a ways diary diary of an abductee

962
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:30,740
and in that

963
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:33,050
she talked about her own MyLab related

964
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:35,810
experiences and obviously my lab we

965
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:37,369
haven't really addressed this just as mi

966
00:38:40,870 --> 00:38:39,110
l for military and AV for abduction

967
00:38:43,810 --> 00:38:40,880
right it just means military abduction

968
00:38:45,940 --> 00:38:43,820
and again i I hate the term but I still

969
00:38:48,370 --> 00:38:45,950
use it cuz it's the term known by so

970
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:48,380
many people but going back to our thing

971
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:50,930
about her she coined determine that book

972
00:38:59,070 --> 00:38:55,450
for individuals that were involved in

973
00:39:02,680 --> 00:38:59,080
keeping tabs on her monitoring her

974
00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:02,690
befriended her and other abdic T's and

975
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:04,700
that term was minders like your being

976
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,970
someone's minding you okay and I like

977
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:09,920
the term because it just makes sense as

978
00:39:15,730 --> 00:39:11,960
you're being minded you know when

979
00:39:18,070 --> 00:39:15,740
someone's minding you sure and and it's

980
00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:18,080
just where these individuals get

981
00:39:23,650 --> 00:39:19,720
involved in your life to varying degrees

982
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:23,660
so outside of the abduction events you

983
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:26,570
could have these intelligence people

984
00:39:31,570 --> 00:39:29,690
aerospace people covert world people who

985
00:39:34,359 --> 00:39:31,580
operate in covert projects on many

986
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:34,369
levels will suddenly befriend themselves

987
00:39:38,109 --> 00:39:36,290
to you and sometimes the object he sees

988
00:39:40,030 --> 00:39:38,119
is well this is like a whistleblower

989
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:40,040
providing the information maybe

990
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:42,470
confirming part of my experience so it's

991
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,350
not necessary bad I have a couple these

992
00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:48,320
individuals and I have over time and

993
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:50,030
they've kind of switched positions with

994
00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:52,490
each other and and I don't see it as

995
00:39:57,490 --> 00:39:55,190
something bad I see it is okay I'm

996
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:57,500
flagged I'm of interest so I renew that

997
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,210
in a million ways have them for a long

998
00:40:03,220 --> 00:40:01,280
time so it's like okay so they're kind

999
00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:03,230
of keeping tabs on me and yet I also

1000
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:05,359
kind of get fed some information of

1001
00:40:08,890 --> 00:40:07,310
course you you take that with a grain of

1002
00:40:10,090 --> 00:40:08,900
salt and you don't you don't necessarily

1003
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:10,100
believe it but you don't instantly

1004
00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:11,930
disbelieve it it's like is this useful

1005
00:40:15,820 --> 00:40:13,670
but it usually fits my researcher

1006
00:40:17,710 --> 00:40:15,830
support so they're kind of you know they

1007
00:40:20,140 --> 00:40:17,720
leading you along by the nose yeah but I

1008
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:20,150
admit that and and it's not I'm not

1009
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:21,830
gonna turn around and spouse something

1010
00:40:25,930 --> 00:40:24,290
they say is the God's truth because I'm

1011
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:25,940
not an idiot you know but at the same

1012
00:40:31,150 --> 00:40:28,310
time it's like okay so far it's helpful

1013
00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:31,160
it's interesting in its confirming of

1014
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,060
some stuff

1015
00:40:36,730 --> 00:40:34,640
she had that too and she's also

1016
00:40:37,710 --> 00:40:36,740
befriended you or become very good

1017
00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:37,720
friends with some of them

1018
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:39,950
sometimes in that in the minder

1019
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:42,140
scenarios there can be threats and

1020
00:40:47,130 --> 00:40:44,510
warnings sometimes

1021
00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:47,140
getting into very abusive relationships

1022
00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:50,950
some people end up getting into romantic

1023
00:40:57,460 --> 00:40:53,630
relationships with someone in that role

1024
00:40:58,780 --> 00:40:57,470
hmm and those usually end very badly I

1025
00:41:02,440 --> 00:40:58,790
can understand that

1026
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:02,450
yes and now in my case I've never gotten

1027
00:41:05,350 --> 00:41:04,400
involved into my knowledge well actually

1028
00:41:07,270 --> 00:41:05,360
I take that back

1029
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:07,280
there was someone loosely involved that

1030
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:09,050
was almost a little romantic thing but

1031
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:11,510
but it was short-lived and and it's okay

1032
00:41:16,420 --> 00:41:13,910
but but he was an insider and kind of a

1033
00:41:20,050 --> 00:41:16,430
whistleblower for sure this can happen

1034
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:20,060
and I tell abdic T's be Leary know the

1035
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:21,650
background of the person if you start

1036
00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:23,530
dating someone what's their background

1037
00:41:28,570 --> 00:41:26,630
even if you have someone who seems like

1038
00:41:30,450 --> 00:41:28,580
they come from the corporate world as a

1039
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:30,460
whistleblower providing you information

1040
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:33,410
think well why why why are they what is

1041
00:41:38,530 --> 00:41:35,900
this leading to a handle or situation

1042
00:41:40,780 --> 00:41:38,540
perhaps a handler and it could be

1043
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:40,790
towards eventually recruiting you

1044
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,410
they're checking you out on deeper level

1045
00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:44,720
I mean if you if you flag that kind of

1046
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:49,940
involvement your way down the curve as I

1047
00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:51,890
say you know you know yeah and and so

1048
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:54,260
it's like what's coming next

1049
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,490
what do they want to get you involved

1050
00:42:00,130 --> 00:41:57,440
with and then you can either choose to

1051
00:42:02,590 --> 00:42:00,140
say okay or no to something that you

1052
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:02,600
might be proposed to you mmm but be very

1053
00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:04,850
cautious yeah some people get very

1054
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:07,060
paranoid when this starts to happen and

1055
00:42:11,740 --> 00:42:09,650
again it can be very low-grade like I

1056
00:42:13,830 --> 00:42:11,750
was saying earlier the MyLab involvement

1057
00:42:15,910 --> 00:42:13,840
can start with just really basic

1058
00:42:18,340 --> 00:42:15,920
harassment surveillance kind of stuff

1059
00:42:20,770 --> 00:42:18,350
and then and then can just slowly

1060
00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:20,780
escalate and ramp up to more and more

1061
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:23,360
and so it may not involve getting

1062
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:26,000
abducted by these covert humans or

1063
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:28,430
having covert humans present in an eg

1064
00:42:34,330 --> 00:42:31,910
abduction that may come later and even

1065
00:42:36,010 --> 00:42:34,340
if that happens it doesn't necessarily

1066
00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:36,020
move beyond that so again you could be

1067
00:42:41,530 --> 00:42:39,590
anywhere along that curve of ramping up

1068
00:42:43,390 --> 00:42:41,540
in your life and and then have it stop

1069
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,400
more have it stop for a while and start

1070
00:42:47,590 --> 00:42:45,200
up again I mean that happens for people

1071
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:47,600
or just keep repeating through the same

1072
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,670
cycle just as how much are they

1073
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:51,680
interested in you how involved because

1074
00:42:56,830 --> 00:42:53,830
if you think about these are groups and

1075
00:42:58,540 --> 00:42:56,840
organizations and if they are connected

1076
00:43:00,250 --> 00:42:58,550
to something official as far as

1077
00:43:02,590 --> 00:43:00,260
shadow government or covert ops or

1078
00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:02,600
something or military well they're

1079
00:43:07,810 --> 00:43:04,580
spending time energy and money on you

1080
00:43:09,490 --> 00:43:07,820
and how much time energy personnel and

1081
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:09,500
how much money are they going to spend

1082
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:12,290
on you depends on how valuable are you

1083
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:14,210
useful yeah how valuable you are to them

1084
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:16,640
exactly and so a lot of times they just

1085
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:19,850
check someone out and realize nope it's

1086
00:43:25,330 --> 00:43:22,160
not what I want or that person is such a

1087
00:43:26,770 --> 00:43:25,340
pain in the ass and I think that's

1088
00:43:27,850 --> 00:43:26,780
happened to me a couple times because

1089
00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:27,860
I'll get a little moment then they'll

1090
00:43:31,510 --> 00:43:29,270
leave me alone for a long time and I'm

1091
00:43:36,010 --> 00:43:31,520
thinking they're like somebody goes not

1092
00:43:40,090 --> 00:43:36,020
not worth it because they think they do

1093
00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:40,100
to me I'm gonna go blablabla yeah leave

1094
00:43:43,450 --> 00:43:41,540
me alone and I go I always tell people

1095
00:43:45,310 --> 00:43:43,460
if this starts happening to you the best

1096
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:45,320
way to get them to leave you alone go

1097
00:43:52,270 --> 00:43:49,070
public and talk talking yeah become more

1098
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:52,280
of a hassle than your work so another

1099
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:54,050
element I want to talk about is getting

1100
00:43:57,820 --> 00:43:55,850
back to technology just a little bit a

1101
00:43:59,710 --> 00:43:57,830
big part of the secrecy we're told is

1102
00:44:01,780 --> 00:43:59,720
always that it has to do with the

1103
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:01,790
technologies involved that these kind of

1104
00:44:04,780 --> 00:44:03,110
technologies could put the energy

1105
00:44:06,730 --> 00:44:04,790
companies out of business all that kind

1106
00:44:09,130 --> 00:44:06,740
of speculation I've heard you talk about

1107
00:44:11,590 --> 00:44:09,140
the idea that we're having a slow

1108
00:44:13,420 --> 00:44:11,600
indoctrination to disclosure on some of

1109
00:44:17,110 --> 00:44:13,430
these things and yeah that's a testing

1110
00:44:18,910 --> 00:44:17,120
because this guy this guy Gordon white

1111
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:18,920
he never ceases to blow my mind but he's

1112
00:44:22,030 --> 00:44:20,450
talked about some of the major trade

1113
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:22,040
agreements and things like the

1114
00:44:25,690 --> 00:44:24,410
trans-pacific partnership as potential

1115
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:25,700
evidence for this that it could quite

1116
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:27,710
possibly be the legal and political

1117
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:29,510
framework for releasing some of this

1118
00:44:33,580 --> 00:44:31,610
tech without losing control of it are

1119
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:33,590
there any things like that that you

1120
00:44:38,260 --> 00:44:35,690
would point to to suggest that this roll

1121
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:38,270
out is being prepared a part of me is

1122
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:40,490
like where do I start I mean yeah I'd

1123
00:44:43,450 --> 00:44:42,050
like to hear what he said not familiar

1124
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:43,460
with his stuff and it sounds like he

1125
00:44:48,490 --> 00:44:45,950
might be really on it so I should check

1126
00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:48,500
that out I admit sometimes I just get so

1127
00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:51,230
caught up in regular life that I I'm not

1128
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:53,240
always progressing forward with the

1129
00:44:56,890 --> 00:44:54,770
research in the way that I should and

1130
00:44:59,380 --> 00:44:56,900
again triage I'm usually helping people

1131
00:45:01,240 --> 00:44:59,390
who've had experiences come to terms

1132
00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:01,250
with have they had any my lab stuff and

1133
00:45:05,710 --> 00:45:02,990
if so why and you know it's just again

1134
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:05,720
triage sorry but that's one area as far

1135
00:45:10,210 --> 00:45:08,090
as someone who says look I think this is

1136
00:45:11,830 --> 00:45:10,220
the framework for disclosure happening

1137
00:45:13,630 --> 00:45:11,840
I'm very interested of

1138
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:13,640
like no bassett real well and follow his

1139
00:45:17,830 --> 00:45:15,530
stuff and I was following all the the

1140
00:45:21,340 --> 00:45:17,840
greer stuff when he was doing disclosure

1141
00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:21,350
hmm not so much lately stuff now yeah

1142
00:45:26,770 --> 00:45:24,350
yeah yeah sure I'm here to save you

1143
00:45:29,950 --> 00:45:26,780
stuff it's not working for me or for you

1144
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:29,960
agreed so if not the TPP what are the

1145
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:31,850
things that are the clues that show you

1146
00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:34,610
that there is some type of indication

1147
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:37,070
that there's disclosure coming oh god

1148
00:45:43,450 --> 00:45:39,710
okay I'll stick I'll start with two

1149
00:45:45,910 --> 00:45:43,460
things that stand out like sore thumbs

1150
00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:45,920
sure I'm not sure which to make number

1151
00:45:49,630 --> 00:45:48,020
one mm-hmm I'm gonna start with the one

1152
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,640
I might have more trouble remembering

1153
00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:51,200
once I start talking about the other so

1154
00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:53,660
I'll start with the one which is and

1155
00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,880
maybe it's number two but just so I

1156
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:58,160
don't so I don't spend so much time time

1157
00:46:01,810 --> 00:45:59,090
about the other that I don't talk about

1158
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:01,820
this and the first so the first one I'll

1159
00:46:06,250 --> 00:46:04,190
say is the amount of whistleblowers and

1160
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:06,260
insiders coming out talking and saying I

1161
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:07,970
was told to talk about this which is

1162
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:10,420
right now rife and rampant in ufology

1163
00:46:16,330 --> 00:46:14,210
and in the covert conspiracy worlds and

1164
00:46:18,330 --> 00:46:16,340
everything everything from basiago

1165
00:46:20,620 --> 00:46:18,340
running for president you know to

1166
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:20,630
everyone asked me about Corey Goode all

1167
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:22,010
the time you know all these kinds of

1168
00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:25,010
things so I think I I just think there's

1169
00:46:30,430 --> 00:46:27,620
so many insiders coming out and talking

1170
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:30,440
and pretty much all of them say I'm

1171
00:46:33,610 --> 00:46:32,240
being told to do this I'm being allowed

1172
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:33,620
to say certain things it's being

1173
00:46:37,870 --> 00:46:36,710
encouraged that there's some and it and

1174
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:37,880
when you you know when you say the

1175
00:46:42,610 --> 00:46:40,070
shadow world is not like one unanimous

1176
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:42,620
thought or body you know making

1177
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:45,470
decisions it could be one group wanting

1178
00:46:50,290 --> 00:46:48,170
some information out in direct face of

1179
00:46:52,690 --> 00:46:50,300
someone other group who doesn't you know

1180
00:46:54,910 --> 00:46:52,700
what I mean it could be but in in the

1181
00:46:56,530 --> 00:46:54,920
case of so may these individuals all the

1182
00:46:58,420 --> 00:46:56,540
people they carry Cassie's been

1183
00:46:59,980 --> 00:46:58,430
interviewing and I mean I could I mean I

1184
00:47:02,170 --> 00:46:59,990
don't want to start listing names but I

1185
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:02,180
could prop the top my head just ramble

1186
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:04,250
up and there's these they're all just

1187
00:47:09,460 --> 00:47:06,410
starting to talk about their involvement

1188
00:47:12,370 --> 00:47:09,470
in these deep projects that are secret

1189
00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:12,380
space program projects and technology

1190
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:14,600
development projects and side

1191
00:47:18,070 --> 00:47:16,130
development projects and you know all

1192
00:47:20,110 --> 00:47:18,080
these various aspects of this subject

1193
00:47:22,510 --> 00:47:20,120
and they're saying I'm literally being

1194
00:47:24,310 --> 00:47:22,520
told to talk about this and and I think

1195
00:47:25,030 --> 00:47:24,320
people miss that part of their message

1196
00:47:26,020 --> 00:47:25,040
what

1197
00:47:27,250 --> 00:47:26,030
you think about this do you think he's

1198
00:47:28,510 --> 00:47:27,260
really involved like oh you guys are you

1199
00:47:31,810 --> 00:47:28,520
listen to the fact that he keeps saying

1200
00:47:34,270 --> 00:47:31,820
like Cory good kids say I'm being told

1201
00:47:35,590 --> 00:47:34,280
to talk about this and therefore take a

1202
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:35,600
lot of what they say with a grain of

1203
00:47:38,110 --> 00:47:37,010
salt are you really getting the truth

1204
00:47:40,060 --> 00:47:38,120
you getting what they want you to hear

1205
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:40,070
and what are they leaving out now that

1206
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:42,410
person may have the I'd met Cory good

1207
00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:44,270
and had dinner with him and his wife and

1208
00:47:46,990 --> 00:47:45,440
I thought and they talked all about

1209
00:47:49,210 --> 00:47:47,000
their kids and he was really down to

1210
00:47:51,250 --> 00:47:49,220
earth and I was pleasantly surprised to

1211
00:47:52,660 --> 00:47:51,260
learn all that about and then you go

1212
00:47:54,430 --> 00:47:52,670
okay well and he said you know I am

1213
00:47:56,410 --> 00:47:54,440
being told to talk about this and and

1214
00:47:58,540 --> 00:47:56,420
you go okay so he's saying what he can

1215
00:48:00,730 --> 00:47:58,550
he knows what he can't I think he has

1216
00:48:02,740 --> 00:48:00,740
good intentions I don't think he has a

1217
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:02,750
lot of ulterior motives other than to

1218
00:48:06,940 --> 00:48:05,000
say what he can I think it's like

1219
00:48:09,220 --> 00:48:06,950
therapy for him I think that with a lot

1220
00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:09,230
of these guys I knew I knew bill uhouse

1221
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:11,750
him for Chile's passed away but I knew

1222
00:48:15,340 --> 00:48:13,310
bill uhouse really well and that was his

1223
00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:15,350
whole thing mm-hmm and when he when he

1224
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:18,320
pushed it too far he got shot didn't

1225
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:20,330
kill but he did you know and and Cory

1226
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:21,710
good knows what will get him hurt I mean

1227
00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:23,390
these guys know what they can't say that

1228
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:25,670
it's that's too much right that was one

1229
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:27,170
of my questions for it is there's

1230
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:28,730
definitely a sea change where they seem

1231
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:30,650
to be talking about a lot of stuff that

1232
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:32,750
wasn't previously talked about but as

1233
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:34,970
far as those sensitive subjects that

1234
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:37,550
they seem to not they're not supposed to

1235
00:48:43,180 --> 00:48:40,880
go into what do those subjects seem to

1236
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:43,190
revolve around as far as he's noticed I

1237
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:44,930
don't know you know because you don't

1238
00:48:47,230 --> 00:48:45,890
you don't know what you don't know you

1239
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:47,240
don't know what they're not saying right

1240
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:48,710
they're saying some pretty wild stuff

1241
00:48:52,750 --> 00:48:50,960
yeah Cory good talks about the Inner

1242
00:48:55,870 --> 00:48:52,760
Earth stuff which is fascinating to me

1243
00:48:58,990 --> 00:48:55,880
yeah what's off the table I don't know

1244
00:49:01,840 --> 00:48:59,000
maybe I don't think they're getting into

1245
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:01,850
a lot of why the ETS are really here

1246
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:03,680
stuff the alien agenda and motive stuff

1247
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:05,330
mm-hmm I don't think they're getting

1248
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,410
into that so much

1249
00:49:11,020 --> 00:49:08,480
I think they talk about the programs but

1250
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:11,030
not why and what they're trying to do

1251
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:13,310
with those programs so that's just my

1252
00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:16,160
guess but truth is III and then their

1253
00:49:19,810 --> 00:49:17,630
thing is I admit I don't follow these

1254
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:19,820
guys that closely you start hearing them

1255
00:49:23,050 --> 00:49:21,350
in the end they just it all just sounds

1256
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:23,060
like so much stuff and you're like how

1257
00:49:26,980 --> 00:49:24,530
do you ever verifying this how do you

1258
00:49:29,260 --> 00:49:26,990
know if it's true right it just becomes

1259
00:49:31,210 --> 00:49:29,270
noise is after a while exactly

1260
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:31,220
agreed and yet I could be missing

1261
00:49:35,010 --> 00:49:32,930
something significant by not paying more

1262
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:35,020
attention to but I leave that to

1263
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:38,330
obviously David Wilcock and and

1264
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:41,210
and earlier I mentioned Project Camelot

1265
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,330
and and and what Bill was doing and what

1266
00:49:47,860 --> 00:49:46,160
Kerry was doing you know I lived two

1267
00:49:48,970 --> 00:49:47,870
folks like that who follow it and say

1268
00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:48,980
okay what are they saying now what's

1269
00:49:51,790 --> 00:49:50,150
different how's this relate to what

1270
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:51,800
someone said before and those people

1271
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,470
make a whole research community out of

1272
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:56,480
that and great that's good I'm glad

1273
00:50:01,090 --> 00:49:57,970
they're doing it then I don't have to

1274
00:50:01,270 --> 00:50:01,100
yeah and then I can if I really want to

1275
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:01,280
know

1276
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:03,530
can I ask David Wilcock or Carrie Cassie

1277
00:50:07,570 --> 00:50:04,850
and say no what do you think about this

1278
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:07,580
person and did that sound like what this

1279
00:50:10,630 --> 00:50:09,170
other person are said cuz they'll go oh

1280
00:50:12,610 --> 00:50:10,640
yeah Allah Allah Allah and all the

1281
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:12,620
cross-correlation because that's their

1282
00:50:17,350 --> 00:50:15,440
research again in my research I'm still

1283
00:50:18,970 --> 00:50:17,360
the poor abductees who are wondering

1284
00:50:21,250 --> 00:50:18,980
what the hell's happening to him yeah

1285
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:21,260
and unfortunately I'm kind of stuck

1286
00:50:25,450 --> 00:50:22,880
there but I only have so much time and

1287
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:25,460
energy I mean I have a full life and of

1288
00:50:28,810 --> 00:50:27,530
course and yet that needs to happen a

1289
00:50:31,330 --> 00:50:28,820
lot of people say hey M'Lynn don't ever

1290
00:50:32,890 --> 00:50:31,340
feel bad about doing that that needs to

1291
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:32,900
happen the addict he needs that

1292
00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:35,330
spokesperson I'm out there talking about

1293
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:36,950
the my lava that's happening to people

1294
00:50:42,670 --> 00:50:39,710
right and that's so that's my dig if you

1295
00:50:45,490 --> 00:50:42,680
will and yet and yet these people who do

1296
00:50:47,020 --> 00:50:45,500
follow again you know I think at Kerry

1297
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:47,030
casting David Wilcock off the top my

1298
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:48,650
head is say we follow what these other

1299
00:50:52,540 --> 00:50:50,480
people are saying we cross correlate

1300
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:52,550
what they're saying and and and I can

1301
00:50:56,860 --> 00:50:54,530
think of oh what's his name Steve and

1302
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:56,870
then Tania man for him and and I forget

1303
00:51:00,730 --> 00:50:58,850
the guy names she made the movie with

1304
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:00,740
packing for Mars but so they're

1305
00:51:03,940 --> 00:51:02,630
following what these guys are saying so

1306
00:51:06,250 --> 00:51:03,950
it's like okay there's enough people

1307
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,260
following that that I can I know where

1308
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,240
to go get that data when I when I want

1309
00:51:12,250 --> 00:51:10,640
to know it I think but again for me for

1310
00:51:14,380 --> 00:51:12,260
me personally it starts to just be so

1311
00:51:16,030 --> 00:51:14,390
much noise you start hearing all these

1312
00:51:18,670 --> 00:51:16,040
people and you're like okay this is all

1313
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:18,680
very interesting I'm really like where's

1314
00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:20,210
the evidence and I'm not saying they're

1315
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:22,550
not legit I'm just saying bring out the

1316
00:51:27,610 --> 00:51:24,710
evidence you're wasting my time when I

1317
00:51:29,950 --> 00:51:27,620
work with a big piece I help gather the

1318
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:29,960
evidence for their experiences and let's

1319
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:31,370
talk about some of physical evidence

1320
00:51:35,110 --> 00:51:32,960
because you have talked about that

1321
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:35,120
you've talked about not only implants

1322
00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:37,010
which most people have heard about but

1323
00:51:42,010 --> 00:51:39,860
other little indications that people's

1324
00:51:44,140 --> 00:51:42,020
stories do check out can you tell us

1325
00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:44,150
about some of those examples yeah yeah

1326
00:51:48,070 --> 00:51:46,070
before we get into that people might

1327
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:48,080
realize we might left them hanging in

1328
00:51:52,059 --> 00:51:49,910
what I think was the number one thing

1329
00:51:54,699 --> 00:51:52,069
that tells us disclosure is coming

1330
00:51:57,609 --> 00:51:54,709
it is current topic politically right

1331
00:51:59,049 --> 00:51:57,619
now in our presidential race hmm now

1332
00:52:01,299 --> 00:51:59,059
whether that means anything's gonna come

1333
00:52:03,549 --> 00:52:01,309
of it or not I don't know but every word

1334
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:03,559
these folks utter well not so much I

1335
00:52:09,699 --> 00:52:05,839
used to think every birthday uttered was

1336
00:52:12,279 --> 00:52:09,709
plan I'm beginning to wonder but having

1337
00:52:14,049 --> 00:52:12,289
had said that the information that John

1338
00:52:15,759 --> 00:52:14,059
Podesta put out in the tweets that he

1339
00:52:21,069 --> 00:52:15,769
put out in his last days of office

1340
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:21,079
working as working for Obama as was he

1341
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:22,640
chief of staff for the White House and

1342
00:52:29,769 --> 00:52:26,209
now being campaign director for Hillary

1343
00:52:32,890 --> 00:52:29,779
and the comments that Hillary keeps

1344
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:32,900
making over and over again you guys the

1345
00:52:37,660 --> 00:52:34,609
fact that this isn't this hasn't been

1346
00:52:42,689 --> 00:52:37,670
said once this is being said over and

1347
00:52:45,969 --> 00:52:42,699
over and over something's afoot yeah

1348
00:52:48,279 --> 00:52:45,979
what are they doing that why she's

1349
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:48,289
making an issue of it ish is she really

1350
00:52:52,989 --> 00:52:49,609
gonna go look at it

1351
00:52:56,410 --> 00:52:52,999
I doubt it are they gonna send up a

1352
00:52:57,999 --> 00:52:56,420
smoke screen hmm you know um I think

1353
00:53:00,789 --> 00:52:58,009
she's just pandering to the Internet

1354
00:53:04,029 --> 00:53:00,799
community I doubt that an outsider like

1355
00:53:06,189 --> 00:53:04,039
her would really expose much nobody but

1356
00:53:09,009 --> 00:53:06,199
you have to that's easy to say but you

1357
00:53:10,870 --> 00:53:09,019
have to go back and realize their

1358
00:53:13,359 --> 00:53:10,880
previous involvement their previous

1359
00:53:16,089 --> 00:53:13,369
questions it's more serious than you

1360
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,099
think and I think it's pandering to the

1361
00:53:20,439 --> 00:53:18,079
Internet means what that's nobody come

1362
00:53:23,049 --> 00:53:20,449
on that's you know really we're talking

1363
00:53:24,459 --> 00:53:23,059
about it yeah okay but I'm just saying I

1364
00:53:26,439 --> 00:53:24,469
no I don't think so

1365
00:53:30,329 --> 00:53:26,449
not that much of the internet community

1366
00:53:32,829 --> 00:53:30,339
even has an interest in the subject good

1367
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:32,839
when you go back to people she's

1368
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:34,910
connected with the question she's asked

1369
00:53:40,449 --> 00:53:38,660
on the inside the book she's read how

1370
00:53:40,930 --> 00:53:40,459
long her and Bill have been pursuing

1371
00:53:48,819 --> 00:53:40,940
this

1372
00:53:51,459 --> 00:53:48,829
has been a 20 year gig for her you know

1373
00:53:53,229 --> 00:53:51,469
and it's been behind the scenes and

1374
00:53:54,579 --> 00:53:53,239
what's interesting is it suddenly come

1375
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:54,589
from behind the scenes day out in the

1376
00:53:58,479 --> 00:53:56,930
open why bringing it out in the open

1377
00:53:59,620 --> 00:53:58,489
Hillary all of a sudden when you've been

1378
00:54:01,269 --> 00:53:59,630
secretly doing this for a long time

1379
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:01,279
night and secretly you've been doing

1380
00:54:04,479 --> 00:54:02,930
this with your friends and close

1381
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:04,489
associates and words been leaking out

1382
00:54:08,260 --> 00:54:05,750
but now you're public

1383
00:54:10,210 --> 00:54:08,270
stating it when before you and bill when

1384
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:10,220
publicly asked would dance around it or

1385
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:12,770
run away now your publicly stating it

1386
00:54:17,230 --> 00:54:15,650
what's going on and Podesta come on you

1387
00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:17,240
guys he was chief of staff of the White

1388
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:19,070
House saying his biggest regret is he

1389
00:54:22,420 --> 00:54:20,450
didn't get that done it's like

1390
00:54:24,220 --> 00:54:22,430
something's afoot and I don't know what

1391
00:54:26,740 --> 00:54:24,230
that means is it is it we're being

1392
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:26,750
primed for some kind of smokescreen to

1393
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:28,370
deflect and say oh look there's nothing

1394
00:54:32,860 --> 00:54:29,560
to it after all

1395
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:32,870
mm-hmm why the question it's not that

1396
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:34,160
they're gonna come out with disclosures

1397
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:37,520
why now and what is their endgame

1398
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:39,770
that's not asked but I think something's

1399
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:42,650
afoot because it is current topic right

1400
00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:44,930
I don't think they have much wiggle room

1401
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:47,990
left I think I don't i think the

1402
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:50,570
involvement of tom delonge right

1403
00:54:55,150 --> 00:54:52,730
blink-182 yeah we're talking about maybe

1404
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:55,160
getting him on here yeah well i hope

1405
00:54:59,860 --> 00:54:57,890
yeah but but I think that's very curious

1406
00:55:01,390 --> 00:54:59,870
who's talking to him and why do they

1407
00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:01,400
think he's the voice of young people why

1408
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:02,990
did they chose him and I get to get why

1409
00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:04,640
they chose him it's he's the voice of

1410
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:07,190
young people I get it but who's trying

1411
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:08,960
to set up the young people for whatever

1412
00:55:13,810 --> 00:55:12,410
this agenda is why him and who is he

1413
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:13,820
talking to him why are they being so

1414
00:55:18,910 --> 00:55:16,490
freely talking to him again you guys if

1415
00:55:21,070 --> 00:55:18,920
he is really meeting with Pentagon

1416
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:21,080
officials and stuff like he claims and I

1417
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:22,370
believe he is I don't believe he's

1418
00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:22,970
making that up

1419
00:55:27,610 --> 00:55:24,830
if he's really hearing the stuff that he

1420
00:55:29,980 --> 00:55:27,620
is and and if you listen to what he's

1421
00:55:31,450 --> 00:55:29,990
saying he's saying oh I totally agree

1422
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:31,460
with why they've done this

1423
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:33,650
he sings their praises they've done no

1424
00:55:37,810 --> 00:55:35,510
wrong there's nothing illegal when you

1425
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:37,820
understand why you will accept it too

1426
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:40,730
and that to me sends up a tremendous red

1427
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:44,810
flag right cuz I'm like wait a second if

1428
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:46,970
this is the voice of the 20-something

1429
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:49,850
crowd you know the 15 to 25 year olds

1430
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:52,130
and this is the guy that's talking to

1431
00:55:55,780 --> 00:55:54,710
them and this is the message they're

1432
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:55,790
gonna start putting out oh there's

1433
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:57,050
nothing wrong there they've not done

1434
00:56:01,540 --> 00:55:58,850
anything illegal everything's okay it's

1435
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:01,550
all justified there's been no policy of

1436
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:03,410
disclosure for completely justifiable

1437
00:56:07,870 --> 00:56:05,330
right it's like they're setting us up

1438
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:07,880
for the idea of immunity but I'm willing

1439
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:09,350
to give them immunity for disclosure

1440
00:56:15,790 --> 00:56:12,680
I'll make that trade Allah yeah I'm fine

1441
00:56:17,950 --> 00:56:15,800
what he says curious and alarming right

1442
00:56:19,540 --> 00:56:17,960
but I but gonna pay attention because

1443
00:56:21,610 --> 00:56:19,550
somebody's talking to them and

1444
00:56:23,350 --> 00:56:21,620
why and what are they saying and I'm

1445
00:56:24,970 --> 00:56:23,360
looking for the day when he wakes up and

1446
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:24,980
the light bulb goes off and he goes wait

1447
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:27,350
a second because dude you are being used

1448
00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:29,090
you're being had you're being used I

1449
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,350
hope you fully realized that mm-hmm just

1450
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:34,640
playing along he seems like a smart guy

1451
00:56:38,740 --> 00:56:36,170
so he might just be playing along to see

1452
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:38,750
how far it goes mm-hmm but I if he if he

1453
00:56:43,630 --> 00:56:42,170
turns tail on them right and says no I'm

1454
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:43,640
not gonna put out that message but we'll

1455
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:45,830
see I mean we'll see yeah and I'm not

1456
00:56:48,910 --> 00:56:47,690
sure what to make it but I'm and I the

1457
00:56:50,410 --> 00:56:48,920
jury's still out I have made up my mind

1458
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:50,420
on many of these things I have made in

1459
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:52,490
my mind but they are curious and and his

1460
00:56:56,620 --> 00:56:55,250
whole ball wax thing time Hillary and

1461
00:57:00,070 --> 00:56:56,630
John Podesta are making those statements

1462
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:00,080
yeah it's like something's afoot well I

1463
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:02,210
think in some way they don't have a lot

1464
00:57:06,550 --> 00:57:04,730
of room left because a lot of these

1465
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:06,560
secret sciences and technologies have

1466
00:57:10,570 --> 00:57:08,570
been quarantined but yet people have

1467
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:10,580
stumbled on them more and more over time

1468
00:57:14,410 --> 00:57:12,710
physics is only working with half a

1469
00:57:17,050 --> 00:57:14,420
puzzle so I think they have really no

1470
00:57:18,610 --> 00:57:17,060
choice but I put this out to us but try

1471
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:18,620
to get out in front of it so that they

1472
00:57:22,330 --> 00:57:20,570
can profit like they've always profited

1473
00:57:24,970 --> 00:57:22,340
yeah I think you're right I think it

1474
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:24,980
might be now we're just looking stupid

1475
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:26,570
and so we got to come out with us

1476
00:57:30,130 --> 00:57:28,970
another thing that's pressing that so

1477
00:57:31,660 --> 00:57:30,140
you have the whole time the long thing

1478
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:31,670
you have your Podesta and Hillary and

1479
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:33,770
that whole thing at the same time part

1480
00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:35,810
of what's pushing that is you have Putin

1481
00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:37,670
pushing the button on it right goodness

1482
00:57:41,620 --> 00:57:39,500
think I'm gonna come out and do this if

1483
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,630
you guys don't he's threatened that

1484
00:57:45,970 --> 00:57:44,240
publicly in lectures like five times or

1485
00:57:48,370 --> 00:57:45,980
something if you don't do this I'm going

1486
00:57:51,820 --> 00:57:48,380
to mmm-hmm our government's going well

1487
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:51,830
we can't let him do it first right that

1488
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:54,130
would be a mess for a million reasons

1489
00:57:58,630 --> 00:57:56,510
for the whole world that would be a mess

1490
00:58:01,150 --> 00:57:58,640
and so they probably realized we got it

1491
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,160
we can't let him do this first mm-hmm

1492
00:58:05,050 --> 00:58:03,200
and he's really pushing some of that

1493
00:58:08,620 --> 00:58:05,060
threat that could be driving some of it

1494
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,630
too along it cuz that to me that tied

1495
00:58:13,540 --> 00:58:10,400
directly in with what you're saying with

1496
00:58:16,030 --> 00:58:13,550
with the technologies are out there to

1497
00:58:17,590 --> 00:58:16,040
move forward and to really profit them

1498
00:58:19,810 --> 00:58:17,600
they've got to start bringing everybody

1499
00:58:21,850 --> 00:58:19,820
along mm-hmm I think you're right

1500
00:58:23,260 --> 00:58:21,860
because I think oh I don't think these

1501
00:58:25,660 --> 00:58:23,270
folks ever do anything that isn't

1502
00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:25,670
completely profit and financial gain

1503
00:58:29,830 --> 00:58:27,470
based and driven right and well

1504
00:58:33,250 --> 00:58:29,840
calculated - yeah yeah exactly you got

1505
00:58:34,390 --> 00:58:33,260
it I'm great I think you're on it well

1506
00:58:36,010 --> 00:58:34,400
getting down to it I know you're also

1507
00:58:37,330 --> 00:58:36,020
gonna be a contact in the desert coming

1508
00:58:38,860 --> 00:58:37,340
up it's a great event where I've

1509
00:58:40,930 --> 00:58:38,870
actually gotten my hands on night-vision

1510
00:58:42,970 --> 00:58:40,940
goggles the past couple of years and saw

1511
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:42,980
a lot of bad stuff in the sky so I have

1512
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:45,920
full faith in the idea of your UFO tours

1513
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:48,290
but give us some details on what those

1514
00:58:51,460 --> 00:58:50,240
are like what are you seeing when you're

1515
00:58:58,170 --> 00:58:51,470
looking out there and the night-vision

1516
00:59:00,340 --> 00:58:58,180
goggles well last night was tour number

1517
00:59:02,350 --> 00:59:00,350
574 Wow

1518
00:59:04,420 --> 00:59:02,360
so in five hundred and seventy four

1519
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:04,430
tours only once did my clients feel they

1520
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:06,050
didn't have a sighting the other five

1521
00:59:09,610 --> 00:59:08,330
hundred and seventy three tours the

1522
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:09,620
other five hundred and seventy three

1523
00:59:13,420 --> 00:59:11,210
tours my clients always thought they had

1524
00:59:15,580 --> 00:59:13,430
sightings and we see a variety of stuff

1525
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:15,590
we you know I I always tell my class I

1526
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:16,970
know where whether we're gonna get ten

1527
00:59:21,070 --> 00:59:19,310
or forty or ten or fifty but you know I

1528
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:21,080
would think my clients last night would

1529
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:24,050
probably tell you they saw 30 or so so

1530
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:26,090
we always see a bunch of stuff I educate

1531
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:29,330
everyone on planes helicopters shooting

1532
00:59:32,830 --> 00:59:31,490
stars and of course satellites so you

1533
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:32,840
know all about when you're seeing those

1534
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:34,640
things and you can rule those things out

1535
00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:36,710
so when you have things that stop turn

1536
00:59:39,850 --> 00:59:38,360
changed and when I say things I

1537
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:39,860
predominately what we're getting your

1538
00:59:44,140 --> 00:59:41,420
lights at high altitude predominantly

1539
00:59:46,420 --> 00:59:44,150
right on 15 of the tour's we've seen

1540
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:46,430
fully structured craft like two ties

1541
00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:48,410
were big discs six times were big

1542
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:51,140
triangles two ties were big boomerang

1543
00:59:55,180 --> 00:59:53,210
shapes one time was a big teardrop shape

1544
00:59:57,250 --> 00:59:55,190
one time with big diamond and three

1545
00:59:59,800 --> 00:59:57,260
times we had big round spheres like you

1546
01:00:02,020 --> 00:59:59,810
know ball shape but in two times your

1547
01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:02,030
classic UFO discs and like I said six

1548
01:00:07,060 --> 01:00:04,190
times big triangles okay but and

1549
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:07,070
sometimes those have been three inches

1550
01:00:10,450 --> 01:00:09,050
in diameter at arms legs you make three

1551
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:10,460
inches in diameter at arms like make

1552
01:00:13,660 --> 01:00:12,050
that a solid object take your hand down

1553
01:00:15,970 --> 01:00:13,670
your time stuff so I'm hovering right

1554
01:00:18,730 --> 01:00:15,980
over you and sometimes they've been

1555
01:00:21,070 --> 01:00:18,740
maybe an quarter inch at arm's length

1556
01:00:23,830 --> 01:00:21,080
hmm but if we're seeing full structure

1557
01:00:25,570 --> 01:00:23,840
and so we've had triangles up high there

1558
01:00:27,550 --> 01:00:25,580
half an inch at arm's length and we've

1559
01:00:29,380 --> 01:00:27,560
had triangles that I had a professional

1560
01:00:30,370 --> 01:00:29,390
pilot out in one night who said it

1561
01:00:32,140 --> 01:00:30,380
thought it was about four or five

1562
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:32,150
hundred feet above us two great big

1563
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:33,770
triangles that we thought were about 300

1564
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,050
feet in diameter only about 500 feet

1565
01:00:40,930 --> 01:00:38,000
above us no it's right on top of us yeah

1566
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:40,940
so you know so but but 15 times we've

1567
01:00:44,020 --> 01:00:42,530
seen structure craft and all their times

1568
01:00:46,210 --> 01:00:44,030
were seeing lights at high altitude

1569
01:00:47,230 --> 01:00:46,220
right that's what I've seen occasionally

1570
01:00:49,630 --> 01:00:47,240
we get great

1571
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:49,640
big lights and my clients go my god

1572
01:00:53,290 --> 01:00:50,930
that's so close that's so close what

1573
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:53,300
shape is it you know it what shape and

1574
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,570
I'll say that shape is big light because

1575
01:01:01,150 --> 01:00:58,640
it's not structure unless you can see

1576
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:01,160
structure but we get big light a lot but

1577
01:01:04,570 --> 01:01:02,720
we also get lights at really high

1578
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:04,580
altitude but things that stop turn

1579
01:01:10,810 --> 01:01:08,090
change direction wobble zig zag make

1580
01:01:12,370 --> 01:01:10,820
right angle turns make u-turns shoot off

1581
01:01:14,350 --> 01:01:12,380
into space last night we had a couple

1582
01:01:15,790 --> 01:01:14,360
that is they took off out of the

1583
01:01:17,650 --> 01:01:15,800
atmosphere they were getting dimmer and

1584
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:17,660
smaller you could tell that they

1585
01:01:20,620 --> 01:01:19,250
suddenly were going three times faster

1586
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:20,630
like they were going faster faster

1587
01:01:23,230 --> 01:01:21,770
faster faster faster and then they'd go

1588
01:01:24,940 --> 01:01:23,240
shoot and shoot out like you know like

1589
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:24,950
streak out mm-hmm it's always a

1590
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:27,010
combination we also get things that fly

1591
01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:29,690
informations not last night but night

1592
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:32,390
before last we had a triangle of three

1593
01:01:37,570 --> 01:01:34,610
three separate objects flying in a

1594
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:37,580
triangle formation and we also have that

1595
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:40,850
happen about seven nights ago we had oh

1596
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:43,730
my god we had a good a good triple oh my

1597
01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:45,610
god it wasn't gonna be coming from the

1598
01:01:50,140 --> 01:01:48,260
southeast straight towards us three

1599
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:50,150
separate objects you could see stars

1600
01:01:53,380 --> 01:01:51,200
between them and they're kind of a

1601
01:01:56,260 --> 01:01:53,390
distance apart you know but perfect

1602
01:01:58,180 --> 01:01:56,270
equilateral perfectly evenly spaced from

1603
01:02:01,540 --> 01:01:58,190
each other awesome the one in the front

1604
01:02:03,220 --> 01:02:01,550
starts dropping to the left and the to

1605
01:02:04,510 --> 01:02:03,230
the other to kind of behind us was like

1606
01:02:07,090 --> 01:02:04,520
one in the front two in the back I guess

1607
01:02:10,599 --> 01:02:07,100
they they start turning and keeping that

1608
01:02:12,370 --> 01:02:10,609
exact shape they do this u-turn so they

1609
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:12,380
come up from the southeast and they took

1610
01:02:17,590 --> 01:02:14,810
off due east and they they just kind of

1611
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:17,600
did this big arcing u-turn and took off

1612
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:20,240
dewey's holding that and as they flew

1613
01:02:24,670 --> 01:02:23,090
away from us they then we're starting to

1614
01:02:26,859 --> 01:02:24,680
go up and out of the atmosphere because

1615
01:02:28,090 --> 01:02:26,869
they were getting smaller dimmer and

1616
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:28,100
closer together all at the same time

1617
01:02:32,050 --> 01:02:29,510
meaning they were holding that exact

1618
01:02:34,330 --> 01:02:32,060
formation but as it flew out away from

1619
01:02:36,490 --> 01:02:34,340
us they got not only dimmer tiny or

1620
01:02:39,250 --> 01:02:36,500
dimmer tinier but much closer together

1621
01:02:41,020 --> 01:02:39,260
and they were like tiny really close

1622
01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:41,030
together before they finally completely

1623
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:42,710
disappeared so they had made a big

1624
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:44,210
u-turn and then took off for space

1625
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:47,210
holding that exact formation it was just

1626
01:02:54,580 --> 01:02:50,050
a perfect textbook triad you know

1627
01:02:57,130 --> 01:02:54,590
awesome I had I had I had clients with

1628
01:02:59,620 --> 01:02:57,140
me that night a couple who are making a

1629
01:03:00,880 --> 01:02:59,630
documentary and they're gonna be a

1630
01:03:02,710 --> 01:03:00,890
contact in the dead

1631
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:02,720
interviewing and filming people with the

1632
01:03:06,910 --> 01:03:05,420
documentary for contact in the desert

1633
01:03:09,220 --> 01:03:06,920
like they're officially doing it in

1634
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:09,230
conjunction with contact in the desert

1635
01:03:12,759 --> 01:03:11,210
and whether it's a documentary just

1636
01:03:14,140 --> 01:03:12,769
about that or a documentary about

1637
01:03:16,299 --> 01:03:14,150
current ufology and they're just gonna

1638
01:03:18,130 --> 01:03:16,309
do a a big part of that but if any one

1639
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:18,140
out there's gonna be a contact or is a

1640
01:03:21,970 --> 01:03:19,730
speaker there or anything

1641
01:03:25,150 --> 01:03:21,980
you're gonna meet these guys this lovely

1642
01:03:27,460 --> 01:03:25,160
couple I think he's from Brazil and they

1643
01:03:29,979 --> 01:03:27,470
were the ones I had out there who got to

1644
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:29,989
see that so I'm sure I'm actually

1645
01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:31,249
looking forward to seeing them at

1646
01:03:35,259 --> 01:03:33,440
contact and being able to go behind you

1647
01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:35,269
guys that triangle ways I was I was so

1648
01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:37,369
good I mean it wasn't a solid stretcher

1649
01:03:42,190 --> 01:03:39,380
crash was three objects in formation

1650
01:03:45,069 --> 01:03:42,200
when I say we've seen triangle structure

1651
01:03:48,130 --> 01:03:45,079
craft six times that's solid solid

1652
01:03:49,870 --> 01:03:48,140
structure yeah so why do you think

1653
01:03:51,339 --> 01:03:49,880
Sedona is such a hot spot outside of

1654
01:03:53,140 --> 01:03:51,349
military presence do you think there's

1655
01:03:54,819 --> 01:03:53,150
natural reasons why the environment

1656
01:03:58,269 --> 01:03:54,829
might be such a hotbed for this activity

1657
01:04:01,269 --> 01:03:58,279
oh gosh okay Sedona has always been a

1658
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:01,279
hot spot for sightings they're places in

1659
01:04:04,420 --> 01:04:02,960
the world that will be hot spots for

1660
01:04:06,370 --> 01:04:04,430
like days you know like all of a sudden

1661
01:04:08,650 --> 01:04:06,380
they'll be a sighting wave a sine wave

1662
01:04:11,009 --> 01:04:08,660
can last days it can last weeks it can

1663
01:04:13,299 --> 01:04:11,019
last months it can last years

1664
01:04:15,519 --> 01:04:13,309
then there are places on the planet that

1665
01:04:17,470 --> 01:04:15,529
are true hot spots meaning there's like

1666
01:04:19,569 --> 01:04:17,480
sighting waves there for epochs of time

1667
01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:19,579
where like a thousand years and reported

1668
01:04:24,130 --> 01:04:21,950
or since you know since the beginning of

1669
01:04:25,450 --> 01:04:24,140
recorded time and and and so they're

1670
01:04:27,370 --> 01:04:25,460
these places on the planet that are

1671
01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:27,380
always known for having sightings all

1672
01:04:33,309 --> 01:04:30,049
the time Sedona is one of those northern

1673
01:04:36,489 --> 01:04:33,319
Arizona is one of those and and the

1674
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:36,499
leading theory as to why Sedona is this

1675
01:04:40,749 --> 01:04:38,930
hot spot for epochs of time is our

1676
01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:40,759
vortexes which are these increased

1677
01:04:46,239 --> 01:04:42,799
electromagnetic fields spiraling up from

1678
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:46,249
the ground and that that's why but

1679
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:48,650
Sedona and northern Arizona and the Four

1680
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:52,130
Corners area is all a big hotspot and as

1681
01:04:55,779 --> 01:04:54,170
well as you know many places in the

1682
01:04:56,979 --> 01:04:55,789
world I could go on listing them but

1683
01:04:59,079 --> 01:04:56,989
there's a lot of these places and

1684
01:05:00,940 --> 01:04:59,089
they're all places that are known as

1685
01:05:03,059 --> 01:05:00,950
places of power these places with these

1686
01:05:06,940 --> 01:05:03,069
large electromagnetic increased

1687
01:05:08,829 --> 01:05:06,950
electromagnetic fields and so just like

1688
01:05:11,589 --> 01:05:08,839
those other places in the world what the

1689
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:11,599
increased electromagnetic fields are hot

1690
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:14,090
spots for epochs of time so is Sedona

1691
01:05:17,380 --> 01:05:15,680
and then there's kind of two schools of

1692
01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:17,390
thought we don't really know why but

1693
01:05:20,260 --> 01:05:18,740
they're two schools of thought one is

1694
01:05:22,420 --> 01:05:20,270
they're getting cite some kind of energy

1695
01:05:24,910 --> 01:05:22,430
from it maybe I'm not a big proponent of

1696
01:05:27,610 --> 01:05:24,920
that but I can't say you know what do I

1697
01:05:29,620 --> 01:05:27,620
know maybe and then the other is that

1698
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:29,630
they're using them as navigation beacons

1699
01:05:34,060 --> 01:05:31,490
they're they're like coming into Earth's

1700
01:05:35,830 --> 01:05:34,070
atmosphere I had an engineering guy one

1701
01:05:37,990 --> 01:05:35,840
night come out of my tour who said what

1702
01:05:40,420 --> 01:05:38,000
if they're anti-gravity navigation

1703
01:05:42,580 --> 01:05:40,430
system is just locking on to these

1704
01:05:45,310 --> 01:05:42,590
electromagnetic fields their navigation

1705
01:05:47,110 --> 01:05:45,320
system being electromagnetic is locking

1706
01:05:48,850 --> 01:05:47,120
on to these electromagnetic fields and

1707
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:48,860
that's why when they come into Earth's

1708
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:51,200
atmosphere they come into these places

1709
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:53,090
of power and then maybe redirect from

1710
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:55,250
there and I said man that makes perfect

1711
01:05:59,560 --> 01:05:58,490
sense so I think I think that made

1712
01:06:01,780 --> 01:05:59,570
perfect sense so that's why I think

1713
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:01,790
they're doing yeah that is intriguing

1714
01:06:05,530 --> 01:06:03,530
for sure I mean that pretty much does it

1715
01:06:07,450 --> 01:06:05,540
for us Melinda this has been really

1716
01:06:08,830 --> 01:06:07,460
insightful I appreciate you sharing all

1717
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:08,840
this research with us are there any

1718
01:06:12,300 --> 01:06:10,610
links or contact information you'd like

1719
01:06:15,490 --> 01:06:12,310
to give people before we call it a wrap

1720
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:15,500
so the best way to get a hold of me to

1721
01:06:22,060 --> 01:06:18,170
access all my information is to go to my

1722
01:06:23,980 --> 01:06:22,070
website UFO sighting tours calm and when

1723
01:06:26,620 --> 01:06:23,990
you go to UFO sighting tours calm you

1724
01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:26,630
scroll down I got videos in might

1725
01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:28,400
there's a little brief bio down the page

1726
01:06:34,510 --> 01:06:31,760
ways and that bio has links in it and

1727
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:34,520
that'll take you to all my stuff

1728
01:06:40,540 --> 01:06:38,690
basically awesome well have a great time

1729
01:06:42,310 --> 01:06:40,550
at contact in the desert and hopefully I

1730
01:06:44,710 --> 01:06:42,320
can end up on one of those UFO tours

1731
01:06:46,180 --> 01:06:44,720
eventually but yeah come to Sedona I

1732
01:06:48,370 --> 01:06:46,190
miss it you know there's a million

1733
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:48,380
reasons to come to Sedona of course my

1734
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:49,910
tours being one of them all right but

1735
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:52,730
but there's there's Sedona is it is a

1736
01:06:57,460 --> 01:06:55,010
destination it's an amazing location

1737
01:06:59,980 --> 01:06:57,470
it's very spiritual it's very healing

1738
01:07:03,060 --> 01:06:59,990
very metaphysical Ross and incredible

1739
01:07:06,490 --> 01:07:03,070
outdoor enthusiasts hiking and dirt bike

1740
01:07:10,030 --> 01:07:06,500
destination as well as an art community

1741
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:10,040
destination so come to Sedona come on my

1742
01:07:14,020 --> 01:07:11,930
tour I'd love to take you right on it's

1743
01:07:15,850 --> 01:07:14,030
not too far so I will do that and anyone

1744
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:15,860
come into contact in the desert make

1745
01:07:20,850 --> 01:07:17,810
sure you come up to me and say hi I'm

1746
01:07:23,620 --> 01:07:20,860
gonna be running two free night-vision

1747
01:07:25,180 --> 01:07:23,630
experiences there at the location on

1748
01:07:26,730 --> 01:07:25,190
Friday and Saturday nights and then

1749
01:07:28,050 --> 01:07:26,740
Sunday night

1750
01:07:29,970 --> 01:07:28,060
paid one where we're gonna go out to

1751
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:29,980
giant rock but you'll have goggle use

1752
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:32,290
the entire time you won't have to if the

1753
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:33,490
other ones you're gonna have goggles for

1754
01:07:36,750 --> 01:07:35,890
like five minutes at a time every 15

1755
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:36,760
minutes you might get in for five

1756
01:07:41,609 --> 01:07:39,310
minutes so you might have three or four

1757
01:07:42,930 --> 01:07:41,619
five minutes segments in a three hour

1758
01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:42,940
period you know blah blah blah but

1759
01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:44,950
you'll get to look but it when we go out

1760
01:07:48,930 --> 01:07:46,720
to giant rock on Sunday night that's a

1761
01:07:50,790 --> 01:07:48,940
paid event but you get you'll have

1762
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:50,800
goggles usage the whole two hours that

1763
01:07:53,609 --> 01:07:52,030
you view I'm gonna be out there for like

1764
01:07:55,410 --> 01:07:53,619
three but two hours of viewing you'll

1765
01:07:57,420 --> 01:07:55,420
get goggle usage the whole time yeah

1766
01:07:59,550 --> 01:07:57,430
it's definitely worth doing I've looked

1767
01:08:01,590 --> 01:07:59,560
into getting goggles myself but man they

1768
01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:01,600
are so expensive the ones I've seen are

1769
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:03,430
like ten thousand dollars so I can

1770
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:05,700
understand no no no no gem gem threes

1771
01:08:13,380 --> 01:08:10,000
right now are ranging between about

1772
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:13,390
thirty us cuz he 3646 number maybe it's

1773
01:08:17,309 --> 01:08:14,530
more like thirty eight and forty eight

1774
01:08:19,740 --> 01:08:17,319
hundred they're good gem threes are in

1775
01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:19,750
that range you can get souped-up gentoos

1776
01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:21,790
for like twenty five hundred but I

1777
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:23,049
actually don't recommend it if you're

1778
01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:24,400
serious about really doing this all the

1779
01:08:29,099 --> 01:08:26,680
time but some people say those are

1780
01:08:30,690 --> 01:08:29,109
pretty good I'm not a big fan but some

1781
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,700
people say they're good and and I hear

1782
01:08:33,900 --> 01:08:32,080
that they're getting better so I'm maybe

1783
01:08:36,510 --> 01:08:33,910
I'll be turned around on it mmm-hmm

1784
01:08:38,820 --> 01:08:36,520
but I use gem threes I get ones that

1785
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:38,830
would retail right now for about thirty

1786
01:08:41,910 --> 01:08:40,330
eight hundred I admit I have a contact I

1787
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:41,920
get them for less than that but and it

1788
01:08:44,249 --> 01:08:43,930
but yeah and that's what I use on the

1789
01:08:46,349 --> 01:08:44,259
tour

1790
01:08:48,329 --> 01:08:46,359
all right on very cool all right well

1791
01:08:50,220 --> 01:08:48,339
until that tour take care yourself out

1792
01:08:52,039 --> 01:08:50,230
there thank you well thanks again for

1793
01:08:55,289 --> 01:08:52,049
having me

1794
01:08:57,390 --> 01:08:55,299
boom people melinda leslie big thanks to

1795
01:09:00,450 --> 01:08:57,400
her you know I liked the episodes to be

1796
01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:00,460
pretty wildly varied and this episode

1797
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:02,350
along with last week's with evil org and

1798
01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:04,330
are a bit too similar but that's

1799
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:06,580
nobody's fault but mine this really was

1800
01:09:11,070 --> 01:09:08,770
me trying to follow up on a lead from

1801
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:11,080
Robert Guffey I thought we might get a

1802
01:09:14,970 --> 01:09:13,359
little insight into these lesser-known

1803
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:14,980
companies that might be part of the

1804
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:17,170
agenda maybe get deeper than what's

1805
01:09:22,499 --> 01:09:20,170
commonly discussed on coast to coast and

1806
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:22,509
some of the surfaced programs that talk

1807
01:09:26,190 --> 01:09:23,710
about this stuff all the time

1808
01:09:28,499 --> 01:09:26,200
but apparently the things I wanted to

1809
01:09:31,050 --> 01:09:28,509
follow up on most were kind of old news

1810
01:09:33,570 --> 01:09:31,060
but there were some insights about why

1811
01:09:35,970 --> 01:09:33,580
these things occur and where pockets of

1812
01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:35,980
the shadow state might be and carrying

1813
01:09:40,649 --> 01:09:39,279
out this partnered agenda sometimes I do

1814
01:09:43,740 --> 01:09:40,659
get critics that

1815
01:09:46,169 --> 01:09:43,750
say all I do is plug books but it's hard

1816
01:09:49,019 --> 01:09:46,179
to get into the level of depth that I

1817
01:09:50,849 --> 01:09:49,029
like to when a guest hasn't written a

1818
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:50,859
ton of material that I can comb through

1819
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:53,650
those details are always nice what sort

1820
01:09:57,330 --> 01:09:56,050
of technology are people seen how are

1821
01:09:59,490 --> 01:09:57,340
they interacting with it

1822
01:10:01,470 --> 01:09:59,500
what imagery and messages are people

1823
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:01,480
being given you know I would have liked

1824
01:10:07,649 --> 01:10:05,050
to dig into those areas a little bit

1825
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:07,659
deeper as much as possible and the Plus

1826
01:10:11,790 --> 01:10:09,850
show we did talk largely about Melinda's

1827
01:10:14,189 --> 01:10:11,800
own personal experience with both types

1828
01:10:16,350 --> 01:10:14,199
of phenomenon as well as her penchant

1829
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:16,360
for contacting spirit guides and how

1830
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:18,850
those two things might intersect it's

1831
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:20,530
always great to hear the details of

1832
01:10:24,629 --> 01:10:22,449
personal accounts and try to flush out

1833
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:24,639
some of the big picture so I do

1834
01:10:29,370 --> 01:10:27,250
appreciate her going through that for us

1835
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:29,380
I do worry parts of the episode were a

1836
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:31,449
bit too introductory for you guys this

1837
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:33,760
isn't the first time you've heard of the

1838
01:10:37,169 --> 01:10:35,110
mill ABS experience and you're

1839
01:10:39,689 --> 01:10:37,179
definitely not new to the et abduction

1840
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:39,699
phenomenon but I hope we got beyond the

1841
01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:41,050
basics enough to keep you interested

1842
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:43,060
it's hard to get answers sometimes

1843
01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:45,190
because nobody really knows much more

1844
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:47,590
than the basics on subjects of such high

1845
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:50,050
secrecy I mean Melinda is someone who

1846
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:52,810
researches his stuff intensely has

1847
01:10:57,330 --> 01:10:55,090
interviewed tons of experiencers and

1848
01:11:00,270 --> 01:10:57,340
she's given us all she knows

1849
01:11:02,189 --> 01:11:00,280
surprise surprise humanoid beans taking

1850
01:11:04,050 --> 01:11:02,199
people in the night is something that's

1851
01:11:06,510 --> 01:11:04,060
hard to get a lot of details on and

1852
01:11:09,180 --> 01:11:06,520
again I respect the work Melinda has

1853
01:11:11,459 --> 01:11:09,190
done and her opinions but I don't think

1854
01:11:12,930 --> 01:11:11,469
you can take any comments about UFO

1855
01:11:14,970 --> 01:11:12,940
disclosure from Hillary Clinton

1856
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:14,980
seriously I don't consider her to be on

1857
01:11:19,890 --> 01:11:17,530
Team people in any sense of the word and

1858
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:19,900
I would never suggest that getting her

1859
01:11:24,510 --> 01:11:21,610
in office would do anything good for us

1860
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:24,520
especially not the revealing of secrets

1861
01:11:29,220 --> 01:11:27,489
that are decades old unless of course

1862
01:11:32,459 --> 01:11:29,230
they were stored on her private Internet

1863
01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:32,469
server and you did get a taste of some

1864
01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:34,540
of the material in tomorrow's show with

1865
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:37,710
Gordon when I asked about disclosure or

1866
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:40,090
technological rollout indicators like

1867
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:41,920
the trans-pacific partnership I think

1868
01:11:46,229 --> 01:11:44,560
that's really smart thinking on Gordon's

1869
01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:46,239
part and we'll get deeper into that in

1870
01:11:51,419 --> 01:11:49,060
the next show it was also nice to have

1871
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Melinda bring up Cori Goods name in this

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01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:53,260
episode a lot of people have written me

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01:11:57,180 --> 01:11:54,670
and asked why I haven't had

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especially when the inner earth is such

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a big part of his Thane I just don't

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01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:02,350
know if I trust his story we have a lot

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01:12:06,570 --> 01:12:03,760
of people come out on the conspiracy

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01:12:09,780 --> 01:12:06,580
stage and talk about their wild tales

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Cory good Donald Marshall captain K and

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01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:12,520
Eva sake oh I don't really trust these

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guys their stories are too sensational

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01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:17,980
unverifiable and yeah sometimes they

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01:12:23,310 --> 01:12:20,410
make for a good THC I won't deny that

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01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:23,320
that's a part of our roster here but

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01:12:28,110 --> 01:12:25,120
they're not usually my favorite episodes

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01:12:30,540 --> 01:12:28,120
and I'm realizing I'm better off with

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in-depth researchers and authors that I

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respect and find to be logical and

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intelligent rather than sensational and

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:38,800
over-the-top so that's where my head's

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01:12:43,709 --> 01:12:41,410
been at in picking the guests for June I

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01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:43,719
think that's what worked so well for us

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01:12:49,530 --> 01:12:45,850
in April and I think you'll be pretty

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01:12:51,380 --> 01:12:49,540
happy but Melinda's tours are another

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01:12:53,459 --> 01:12:51,390
thing I haven't been out with her

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01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:53,469
personally but I've done the exact same

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thing twice and it is really interesting

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I actually think it's less impressive

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01:13:03,180 --> 01:13:01,120
than I expected but there's no doubt

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little points of light that do

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01:13:07,770 --> 01:13:05,380
right-angle turns move back and forth

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01:13:10,140 --> 01:13:07,780
change speed and direction but they're

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01:13:13,770 --> 01:13:10,150
so small you can't tell if they're

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01:13:16,050 --> 01:13:13,780
really just points of light or some type

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01:13:17,910 --> 01:13:16,060
of craft I mean an airplane at night

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01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:17,920
looks like a point of light especially

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01:13:22,050 --> 01:13:20,380
the higher up it is but something's

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01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:22,060
clearly there maybe it's the archons

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01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:24,250
maintenance crew but the fact that they

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01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:26,830
have a near-perfect sighting record

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tells you that it's something that's

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01:13:32,850 --> 01:13:30,790
always up there and that in itself is

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01:13:35,010 --> 01:13:32,860
something to walk away pondering and

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01:13:37,590 --> 01:13:35,020
treat yourself to the experience if you

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01:13:40,380 --> 01:13:37,600
get the chance why would you not but

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that is it for me you're getting two

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01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:43,390
more shows in the next five days we had

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01:13:48,030 --> 01:13:45,280
scheduling issues so I'm all backed up

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01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,040
but I'm hitting you with a flood of THC

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01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:51,280
episodes so brace yourself until then

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01:13:55,940 --> 01:13:53,860
your move corporate alien co-operators

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01:14:03,020 --> 01:13:55,950
and abduction overseers

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01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:03,030
you're [\h__\h] woke up this morning with

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:09,450
light in my eyes and then realize it was

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01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:19,440
it was the light coming down from the

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must be those strangers

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01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:38,050
every night hos saucer-shaped a light

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but people time

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the blue-green footprint is left the

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home and the dark

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mr. spaceman won't you please take me

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along I won't do anything wrong hey mr.

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moved up this small

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weird I had it

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open the window lake written my name so

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long

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mr. spaceman

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won't you please take me

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01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:12,840
I won't do anything wrong hey mr.

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spaceman

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Hey

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mr. spaceman

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01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:35,530
all to please take me along I won't do

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01:16:51,210 --> 01:16:49,250
won't you please take me along the high

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01:17:15,540 --> 01:16:51,220
side

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01:17:19,450 --> 01:17:17,860
hey guys thanks for listening to the

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first hour of the higher side chats

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podcast with me Greg Carl wood if you

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01:17:26,230 --> 01:17:23,870
don't know there is a second hour to all

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the episodes we do around here generally

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01:17:29,650 --> 01:17:27,950
we're able to get a lot deeper into the

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topics and ideas that a guest is about

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01:17:34,810 --> 01:17:31,670
so if you enjoyed what you've heard from

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01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:34,820
THC for free consider signing up at the

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second hour of the 5 shows I put

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together each month I never really

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01:17:44,890 --> 01:17:43,190
wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

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01:17:46,900 --> 01:17:44,900
but I really hate the idea of spending

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airtime promoting some product that's

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01:17:50,650 --> 01:17:49,010
completely unrelated and telling you the

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best way to support the show is to buy

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an audio book or new underwear by mail

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or something crazy like that so instead

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01:17:59,260 --> 01:17:57,680
if you like the show double your time

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with it for five bucks a month and let's

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cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

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price of a movie ticket and you get at

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least an extra five hours of show a

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month collectively it keeps us stable

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and it frees me from wasting your time

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with anything but the show you came to

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01:18:15,340 --> 01:18:13,340
listen to it's really the only way for

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01:18:17,140 --> 01:18:15,350
an independent one-man show to make it

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and I do what I can so that it's worth

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01:18:21,340 --> 01:18:19,370
your while since we started this I've

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01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:21,350
always tried to use the subscriptions to

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01:18:25,930 --> 01:18:23,360
improve the podcast and make signups

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01:18:27,850 --> 01:18:25,940
more advantageous it started with just a

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01:18:29,500 --> 01:18:27,860
second hour for the main show but now

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01:18:31,570 --> 01:18:29,510
we've got a nice forum going where

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01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:31,580
people can get deeper in conversation

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01:18:36,190 --> 01:18:33,290
about the episodes with other listeners

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01:18:38,070 --> 01:18:36,200
submit a candidate in the guest request

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01:18:39,910 --> 01:18:38,080
thread or share their own personal

1986
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:39,920
projects to get out of the soul-crushing

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01:18:44,770 --> 01:18:42,170
nine-to-five cog in the wheel life on

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01:18:46,210 --> 01:18:44,780
the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

1989
01:18:48,130 --> 01:18:46,220
the Plus comments they're always the

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01:18:50,380 --> 01:18:48,140
first places I try to go for listener

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01:18:52,750 --> 01:18:50,390
engagement but it does get harder as the

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01:18:54,610 --> 01:18:52,760
show gets more popular because of that

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:54,620
there's also a direct messaging feature

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01:18:58,900 --> 01:18:56,090
that you can use to reach me through the

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plus site also but beyond the forum if

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01:19:02,710 --> 01:19:00,530
you like any of the music I've used for

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01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:02,720
THC most of it I've hired artists to

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01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:04,490
make and I provided all its free

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01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:06,770
downloads to plus members too so if you

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01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,210
like a particular song you've heard

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01:19:12,730 --> 01:19:10,400
close the show out recently come get the

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01:19:14,770 --> 01:19:12,740
mp3 I should also mention that if you

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01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:14,780
don't like the idea of paying $5

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01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:17,120
recurring every month I get that you can

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:19,280
buy three months six months or a year

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01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:21,650
upfront and just be done with it I have

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01:19:26,260 --> 01:19:23,570
plenty of listeners who send checks in

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orders to the PIO box - I try to make it

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as easy for people as I can and you can

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read more about it on the signup page

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also be sure to check out the FAQ help

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page on the plus side if you have any

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01:19:37,690 --> 01:19:35,780
questions or concerns about how to

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01:19:40,030 --> 01:19:37,700
listen to a password-protected show on

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01:19:41,950 --> 01:19:40,040
your devices I've highlighted a lot of

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01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:41,960
great solutions and one of those would

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:44,450
be the iPhone app that just recently hit

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the Apple App Store

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a super kind and talented listener made

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it for us and you can use it to stream

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or download either the free or the plus

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01:19:57,550 --> 01:19:54,440
show if you're on Android I'd use pocket

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01:19:59,950 --> 01:19:57,560
casts or podcast addict and subscribe to

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01:20:02,260 --> 01:19:59,960
the feed manually that way I also try to

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01:20:04,210 --> 01:20:02,270
throw an occasional bonus shows or QA

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01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:04,220
shows and I've got a few other weird

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:06,770
ideas I might get to try out soon but I

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01:20:10,330 --> 01:20:08,690
give you all I can for five bucks and I

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01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,340
hope you'll at least give it a shot if

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01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:12,080
you've listened to a few free shows and

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01:20:15,610 --> 01:20:13,850
you find them unique or valuable I know

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01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:15,620
there's a lot of podcasts out there and

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01:20:19,870 --> 01:20:17,600
I'm just one of them but if you have any

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01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:19,880
questions concerns or comments about any

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01:20:22,630 --> 01:20:21,530
of this please get in touch with us at

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01:20:25,870 --> 01:20:22,640
the higher side chats

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team at gmail.com I also wanted to plug

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01:20:29,410 --> 01:20:27,350
the higher side newsletter I'm gonna be

2039
01:20:31,270 --> 01:20:29,420
putting out totally free for anyone who

2040
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:31,280
wants to sign up at the main Internet

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01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:33,230
web site for the show the higher side

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01:20:37,420 --> 01:20:35,810
chats com you can also get on that email

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01:20:39,310 --> 01:20:37,430
list through the higher side chats

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01:20:41,380 --> 01:20:39,320
Facebook page there's a button there as

2045
01:20:43,540 --> 01:20:41,390
well but the reason I'm doing this is

2046
01:20:45,670 --> 01:20:43,550
because I get tons and tons of emails

2047
01:20:47,950 --> 01:20:45,680
after a show goes up asking me about how

2048
01:20:49,420 --> 01:20:47,960
I feel about a particular guest or topic

2049
01:20:50,530 --> 01:20:49,430
and the wrap-up isn't always the best

2050
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:50,540
place to do that

2051
01:20:53,980 --> 01:20:52,010
especially if I have anything negative

2052
01:20:55,690 --> 01:20:53,990
to say sometimes the dust needs to

2053
01:20:58,150 --> 01:20:55,700
settle sometimes they need to hear

2054
01:20:59,740 --> 01:20:58,160
feedback from you guys first there are a

2055
01:21:01,330 --> 01:20:59,750
lot of factors but I usually have

2056
01:21:03,790 --> 01:21:01,340
something to communicate to you and I

2057
01:21:05,410 --> 01:21:03,800
just don't get to do it so on the first

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:05,420
of the month I plan to send out a little

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01:21:09,340 --> 01:21:07,010
newsletter with my thoughts about the

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01:21:11,260 --> 01:21:09,350
five shows the previous month and talk

2061
01:21:13,420 --> 01:21:11,270
to you about anything else that's on my

2062
01:21:15,220 --> 01:21:13,430
mind or that's going on and what's

2063
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:15,230
probably most enticing is that I'm gonna

2064
01:21:18,910 --> 01:21:16,970
give you some insight into at least one

2065
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:18,920
guest I have coming up in the month

2066
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:20,960
which people have been begging for some

2067
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:22,970
posted schedule for a long time I

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01:21:26,590 --> 01:21:24,890
personally think I'd like the surprise

2069
01:21:28,570 --> 01:21:26,600
but sign up for the higher side

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01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,580
newsletter it's free it comes out on the

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01:21:32,980 --> 01:21:30,080
1st of the month and I won't waste your

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01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:32,990
time with any other emails and that's it

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01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:34,910
I appreciate you listening I try to give

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01:21:38,710 --> 01:21:36,650
alternative ideas and guess

2075
01:21:41,050 --> 01:21:38,720
fair shake on a high-quality podcast

2076
01:21:43,180 --> 01:21:41,060
expose some deep level conspiracies

2077
01:21:44,860 --> 01:21:43,190
without the yelling and I hope to offer

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01:21:46,990 --> 01:21:44,870
some inspiration that even though the

2079
01:21:49,300 --> 01:21:47,000
system relentlessly suggests you should

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01:21:51,130 --> 01:21:49,310
follow their blueprint to mediocrity you

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01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:51,140
can do your own thing and live a much

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01:21:55,330 --> 01:21:53,450
happier life despite all the negativity